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[_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)05:05:58 No.3263705
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)05:38:11 No.3263708
Nothing matters in life, in 50 years chances are you will be dead and then nothing matters.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)06:34:03 No.3263712
Is this ironic? I don't understand. All of the advices except maybe the last ones are valid. Stop
trying to think you're a special snowflake. You're not.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)06:38:16 No.3263714
>>3263712
>All of the advices except maybe the last ones are valid.
Not really, no.
"Just be happy" is worthless advice do someone with depression, in the same way "don't drown" is
unhelpful to the crew of a sinking ship.
And using someone else's depression as an opportunity to brag about how great you are just makes
you an asshole.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)06:41:51 No.3263715
>>3263712
Holy shit the last one is probably the most valid. Exercise does in fact assist in helping people
out of depression. The rest don't actually help at all.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)06:56:35 No.3263717
>>3263715
Exercising is just a mean to not think about what depresses you.
The same applies to every fucking hobby you can do from reading books and playing video games to
do a job you like doing because it distracts you from the pain.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)07:11:29 No.3263722
>>3263717
>Exercising is just a mean to not think about what depresses you.
You're confusing depression with being sad.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)07:17:51 No.3263724
>>3263722
so what is it?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)07:21:34 No.3263725
>>3263724
Being unable to experience any strong emotion at all.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)07:26:01 No.3263726
>>3263724
i've never seen one before, no one has but i'm guessing it's a white hole.
>> [_] RepostChan 07/19/17(Wed)08:41:17 No.3263737
>>3263726
Is that thing spewing time? Back into the universe?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)09:13:34 No.3263745
how about instead of trying to find ways to ignore your depression you fix your life
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)09:29:24 No.3263747
>>3263745
That's not how depression works.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)09:35:31 No.3263748
This whole thread is depressing.
No offense, but you're all a drag.
>puffs bong
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)10:45:51 No.3263759
>>3263717
>Exercising is just a mean to not think about what depresses you.
It's a bit more than that, the root problem is brain chemistry and exercise/diet impacts that
directly. The reason the liftbro's advice is always seen as the best is it's a gameplan, a set of
actions to take. If you generalized his advice out of his idiot worldview, it would be "1:
improve yourself, 2: obtain things that you love, 3: seek the relationships you want in life"
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)10:58:39 No.3263761
>>3263759
Partly correct; the actual extraction is
>take care of your brain by eating right and exercise
>SET GOALS
>seek professional assistance when needed (you or your family will generally know when it's
needed)
Obtaining crap does not make a happy camper.
And generally, the relationship part FOLLOWS therapeutic action, it certainly does not cause it,
and can be rather disastrous for all involved when in a state of poor mental health.
Mental illness leads to relationship illness.
Look at Shmorky.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)11:00:23 No.3263763
>>3263747
get antidepressants then
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)11:16:36 No.3263770
>ITT: people that don't have depression try to give advice
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)12:19:28 No.3263782
>>3263770
Pfft, we're sure not gonna take advice on depression from a depressed faggot. Would you take tips
on becoming wealthy from a poorfaggot?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)12:54:56 No.3263786
does anyone even know what depression is or is it just a bunch of psychologists jacking eachother
off? Seems like every other person diagnosed with depression actually has something else
entirely, no two people ever seem to have the same description of what depression is/what helps
to alleviate it and all of its symptoms are floaty and ambiguous
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)13:24:08 No.3263787
>>3263786
gotta move those meds somehow m80
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)13:30:23 No.3263788
>>3263705
The last guy was right.
He's the only one offering scientifically proven advice and not hollow, philosophical nonsense.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)13:33:59 No.3263789
>>3263759
>the root problem is brain chemistry and exercise/diet impacts that directly.
Gee, you discovered the cure for depression, huh? Why don't you publish then? Scientists are
desperate to make any kind of progress in research of depression. You'd make a discovery of a
century at least, with your name to be remembered forever. Can't possibly be because you're just
making shit up?
Lifting doesn't cure depression. It's just one of those many things that people with depression
desperately pursue again and again in order to cure themselves, just to get disappointed yet once
more in the end.
Your best shot is therapy, no matter what people on the internet say about its effectiveness.
They usually underrate it because none of them really went through the whole procedure anyway.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)13:44:37 No.3263791
>>3263789
>Your best shot is therapy, no matter what people on the internet say about its effectiveness.
Remember kiddos, throwing enough money at a problem to get talked at by a shrink and given your
pills fixes any problem.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)13:52:08 No.3263792
>>3263705
>first one
don't think about it. fair enough with meaningless little things. distract yourself until you're
dead. Only works if you don't have a shit load of free time.
>second one
same as the first but with the added treat of social exclusion. "Don't think about it, and if you
keep on it, I want to do it some where else, because I don't want to think about it"
>third
An outdated view. The old grew up in a per-god is dead era, and if you have a omnipotent entity
that give a shit about you for some reason, then nihilism and depression are easy enough to avoid.
>fourth
The absurd. Find something you like doing, and just do it, find meaning in it, or just use it as
a distraction, and give the middle finger to the universe, and all its indifference, be happy
anyway. Wouldn't recommend it having anything to do with 3DPD tho, and you can always kill
yourself at any time.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)14:04:40 No.3263795
>>3263791
So I suppose you have a better idea?
Seriously, convincing people that suspect they're depressed they shouldn't get a professional
help and that there are some other remedies is even more irresponsible than spreading
anti-vaccine tier memes.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)14:13:17 No.3263796
>>3263795
Yeah, quit putting foreign substances into your body and assuming a pill will fix everything. If
it's an internal issue, it has to be fixed internally, not by throwing chemicals at it.
Exercising is the best suggestion so far.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)14:27:57 No.3263798
>>3263796
>Exercising is the best suggestion so far.
It isn't. You aren't a doctor. People in need shouldn't listen to you or this kind of "advice" -
I want that to be clear.
Professional help is the best bet one can do. Even if it would turn out not to be successful,
it's the best investment you can do with that money in your situation.
And btw, saying things like
>putting foreign substances into your body and assuming a pill will fix everything
is a retarded as fuck and should automatically mark you as lunatic.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)14:46:55 No.3263801
>>3263796
>putting foreign substances into your body
Assuming, you'd even get the pills. First they have to diagnose what's wrong with you, or even if
anything at all (you might just be miserable).
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)14:57:11 No.3263803
>>3263725
this af senpai
Crushing to be experiencing an event that should be amazing, but you feel nothing instead and
just want to turn to stone until a year passes.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)15:04:26 No.3263804
dude depression happens all of a sudden or when you get hit kinda hard I kind of saw I was
starting to have it again(taking less showers, missing some classes on the university, etc),
basically what you have to do is force yourself out of it, but sometimes you don't see it coming
until it's late or some retards find it as a comfort zone too where people give everything to him
and stuff and he just cries
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)15:23:32 No.3263810
>>3263798
Kek. Alright bro, go take your meds, everything will magically be better. Bottoms up.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)15:32:29 No.3263811
>>3263810
>everything will magically be better.
Point one place where I said it will definitely, always help.
What I said was it might actually work instead of a placebo which would only disappoint you and
make you fall deeper into the tar pit.
Not to mention, getting professional help doesn't have to amount to just taking pills. But if it
does, it's probably for the better.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)15:36:14 No.3263812
>>3263811
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-many-die-from-medical-mistakes-in-us-hospitals/
Daily reminder your much vaunted "professional" help can kill you. Exercise is free, harmless,
and excellent for anyone.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)15:38:05 No.3263814
>>3263812
>Daily reminder your much vaunted "professional" help can kill you
So can a toothbrush.
>harmless
It isn't and you should know it if you even lift.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)15:40:08 No.3263817
>>3263814
So don't be a retard and overdo it. Exercise is not hard. Btw, "so can a toothbrush" does not
refute medical professionals as being the third leading cause of death in the country behind
cancer and heart disease.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)15:54:34 No.3263821
>>3263817
>So don't be a retard and overdo it
So don't be a patient of a doctor who'd mix up your meds. That's the illusion of control bias.
Just because you're in control doesn't mean you'll be less likely to end up harming yourself.
>does not refute medical professionals as being the third leading cause of death
It does, and you'd know why if you knew how Bayes theorem works.
Simply:
>pick a subset of conditions which are very lethal but are only a tiny fraction of every
condition treatable with medicine (even ordinary flu).
>compare its death tool in numbers with the death tool of near-to-harmless but very numerous
other treatments that use medicine.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)15:59:17 No.3263823
>>3263821
>So don't be a patient of a doctor who'd mix up your meds
Hah. How would you know? You're not the one who went to medical school. As someone stated earlier
ITT: "You're not a doctor." You're going in on blind trust.
>>3263821
>It does, and you'd know why if you knew how Bayes theorem works.
It doesn't though, whatever your "bayes theorem" says.
Here's another one, prescribed drugs that come from, you guessed it, the doctors.
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/patient-advice/articles/2016-09-27/the-danger-i
n-taking-prescribed-medications
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)16:16:34 No.3263827
>>3263821
You are a real moron friend. The other guy has had more to say on the subject other than "hurr
doctors" as far as why exercise helps versus going to a doctor.
Also he is right, depression is an imbalance of chemicals in the brain. Exercise and diet treat
this far better than a shrinks words.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)16:17:17 No.3263828
>>3263823
>It doesn't though, whatever your "bayes theorem" says.
If you don't understand statistics, you really shouldn't be trying to cite them in an argument.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)16:19:40 No.3263829
The last dude seemed pretty cool
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)16:20:37 No.3263830
>>3263823
>How would you know?
How would you know you won't fuck up your routine? Especially if you train alone. It's not like
the doctors are more careless than you.
There's no use expanding this further. The point was exercising isn't safe either which is
obvious.
>____your____ "bayes theorem"
>Doesn't immediately recognize Bayes theorem
You must be at least 18 to be here. Especially since it's not a blue board.
>It doesn't though
No it doesn't. Or rather it can mean anything. Assume owning an expensive sports car is way more
likely, at least 10 times more, to lead to your death in a car accident. Does that mean that most
of the car accidents whose drivers die in them are caused by owners of sport cars? Not
necessarily. Depends on the ratio of sport car owners to non-sport car owners. If there are 100
or 1000 more, then most deaths would be caused by ordinary drivers.
>>3263826
I didn't mean that taking pills is retarded, idiot. What I meant was that undermining the
effectiveness of scientifically proven to be effective medicine is retarded.
>>3263827
>depression is an imbalance of chemicals in the brain.
that has as much value as saying "it's the inbalance of the fluids"
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)16:24:38 No.3263833
>>3263830
>How would you know you won't fuck up your routine?
lol, easy. If it starts to hurt, ease off.
Here you go.
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/gym-accident-statistics.html
114 deaths in 17 years. Let's compare that to prescribed medication from
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/patient-advice/articles/2016-09-27/the-danger-i
n-taking-prescribed-medications
>between 106,000 and 128000 a year
I rest my case. You have to be real retarded to screw you up your routine and get yourself killed.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)16:32:22 No.3263835
>>3263737
Precisely!
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
A black time sucks time and matter out of the universe, a white hole returns it.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)16:37:16 No.3263836
>>3263705
i'm constantly trying to cope with my existential crisis
any advice?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)16:38:38 No.3263837
>>3263836
Vigorous exercise (you don't need weights to start out, you can ease into those) followed by a
nice walk in the sun (not in the shade) out in nature. It's an incredibly pleasant experience.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)17:16:11 No.3263848
>depression
TOP TIPS:
1: Are you hydrated? Seriously, the nagging pain of a headache that you think may be just you
being dehydrated. You may also be actually having a crisis, but there's no point in having a
crisis AND a headache.
2: The obvious signs of depression are as follows:
Difficulty concentrating, remembering details, and making decisions
Fatigue and decreased energy
Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, and/or helplessness
Feelings of hopelessness and/or pessimism
Insomnia, early-morning wakefulness, or excessive sleeping
Irritability, restlessness
Loss of interest in activities or hobbies once pleasurable, including sex
Overeating or appetite loss
Persistent aches pains, headaches, cramps, digestive problems with treatment
Persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" feelings
Thoughts of suicide, suicide attempts
In particular, if you're suffering from three or more of these, including "thinking you're
depressed", for more than a week, you're suffering clinical depression.
3: There's no one reason for depression, but several things have been known to cause it. A common
one is being stuck in a situation that appears hopeless and not being able to do anything about
it. It may also be a chemical imbalance in your brain.
4: Simple solutions involve making your own life less shitty. One reason for feeling shitty? Low
self-esteem, chronic pain, health or body image issues. Lifting may get you bulked, make you feel
good about yourself, and really does help because it generally helps you get healthier. It's an
achievable goal that can make you feel that you're doing something positive, even if nothing else
is going right.
5: Working out the cause of the problem may also assist. Getting to the core of the issue may
allow you to face it, do something about it, or allow that to be less stressful. Got a girl who's
getting you down? Can't stand up to your parents? Work out what you can do, and do it. If
necessary therapy may assist to identify the problem.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)17:17:25 No.3263849
>>3263848
6: If the above two suggestions don't help, drugs are there for a reason. I'd recommend them last
because they're expensive, have side effects, and once you're on them it's hard to wean yourself
off without going through crazy ups and downs. But it's always an option.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)17:20:08 No.3263850
>>3263837
thanks senpai
have a pleasant evening
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)17:26:04 No.3263854
>>3263850
No worries bud. I can't guaranteed it's a permanent fix, I've just started it myself, but it's
free and very enjoyable, and I actually get an itch to get back to working out again, so the body
loves it to pieces.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)17:34:36 No.3263855
>>3263854
its just bad when i'm doing nothing lying lying in bed trying to sleep, or sitting on the toilet
my brain will be like "hey, one day no matter what you do you're gonna die and be gone forever"
and i'll need to suppress an anxiety attack
but hey whatever helps in the meantime
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)17:39:15 No.3263856
>>3263855
>hey, one day no matter what you do you're gonna die and be gone forever
That just means you don't need to worry about not doing your best or disappointing people!
It's how I live with myself without crippling depression. Just normal depression that I can work
through! After all, I've just got to survive until the next thing I can enjoy!
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)17:40:13 No.3263857
Depression is more like systematic entropy. A true depressed person wouldn't be going to parties
or getting others' opinions on their feelings because they wouldn't be sharing them. A real
depressed person wouldn't share or do much of anything at all. Most people are just depressed in
a meme sort of way, have some busy moments where they function pretty well and keep their minds
off of it at times, while others are actually disabled and prone to these feelings 100%.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)18:11:35 No.3263865
>>3263857
>A true depressed person wouldn't
No, that's someone with crippling depression.
There are ranges of depression. Someone can function while depressed.
It's still important to get that sort of person less depressed because people who are depressed
tend to fuck up more because their mind isn't on the job. You don't want a depressed bus driver
to miss a stop sign and T-bone a car, do you?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)18:23:39 No.3263872
>>3263835
Hey wait a minute, I missed the discussion!
>> [_] Anonymous 07/19/17(Wed)18:33:29 No.3263877
>>3263872
We all did.
