File: Nujabes.swf-(4.29 MB, 648x403, Other)
[_] I like this flash, topic inside. Anonymous 10/13/19(Sun)18:59:46 No.3405077
This has become my only hobby, I collect flash files like I'm sure many of you do, I categorize
them, and I even put them on my website so I can look at them on the go.
Anyway, I'll be really sad when flash is gone, but I've been thinking about 2012 a lot recently.
For those of you born before 2000 I'm sure you'll have remembered about when java was removed
from pretty much every major browser. I'm not an expert, and I don't know the whole story, but I
know that java was removed from the web for some of the same reasons as flash is now.
Although in java's case, it was just simply too dangerous, flash isn't as bad, but adobe seem to
not care enough to save it anymore since popularity has gone down a lot.
As we all know, a lot of java based things were replaced by js, php, sql, etc.
What will flash be replaced with?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/13/19(Sun)20:31:19 No.3405083
Embedded video, for the most part.
It's a paradigm shift. Flash is from the Wild West days of the Internet, when it was a scattered
collective of hobbyists, artists and other amateurs entertaining each other over dial-up
connections. These days, megacorp streaming services have a monopoly over online entertainment.
In short, nobody wants to watch hand-drawn animations some teenager made when there's endless cat
videos and high quality shows from major studios available.
The main holdouts are the people who make interactive porn. They'll probably shift over to Unity
or something like that.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/13/19(Sun)20:41:01 No.3405084
What will actually happen ? I'm always told that the moment it's on the internet, it's there
forever. There's no way Adobe stopping supporting flash will actually erase this giant load of
internet history, right ? Someone can just make a browser that supports flash, no ?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/13/19(Sun)20:58:34 No.3405088
>>3405084
The files will still be playable in some form or another. Probably not in browsers, but the
standalone players are out in the wild and can't be force-updated by Adobe.
There won't be any new content though. Flash has long been Software-as-a-Service, which means
Adobe can hit the kill switch and it will stop working for everyone. Nor is it likely there will
be any replacement authoring tools. The SWF format is excessively complex, and there isn't really
enough demand for anyone to waste resources making a Flash alternative.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/13/19(Sun)21:33:50 No.3405090
>>3405083
>cat videos
You from 2012?
>> [_] Anonymous 10/13/19(Sun)21:36:33 No.3405091
>>3405088
Adobe is still supporting Adobe Animate, no? That uses SWFs still.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/13/19(Sun)21:48:00 No.3405094
>>3405091
Glancing over the Adobe forums, you're right -- Flash publishing is still being supported. It's
just the browser plug-in that's getting axed. My bad.
Still a strong chance the format will get totally phased out though. The loss of the browser
plugin will de-incentivize publishing to SWF vs the other formats that can be exported to,
chiefly HTML5 and video.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/13/19(Sun)23:59:25 No.3405108
>>3405090
It takes the older people time to get on the train
>> [_] Anonymous 10/14/19(Mon)00:17:23 No.3405110
>>3405090
more like 1992
>>3405083
Flash won't be replaced by anything.
Nothing, including HTML5 spec, can replicate its functionality and efficiency.
also...
>java
ummm, that's not specifically a web spec, that's simply a client-interpreted language.
Maybe you're thinking of the REAL web-loser, Microsoft's Active-X (COM/OLE)??? that was WAY
horrible shit for insecurity, and a proprietary standard nobody wanted. Almost as bad as their
ASP, which to this day, nobody but Microsoft uses. (and oddly they still use it).
>> [_] Anonymous 10/14/19(Mon)04:36:10 No.3405131
2010 seems like a good time to die, shit only got worse after then. I know this makes me seem
like an edgelord but 2010 to me seems like better times.
>> [_] Anonymous 10/14/19(Mon)07:25:04 No.3405137
>>3405088
you could always just not patch your shit, or the better option keep a windows 7 or some other OS
in a VM exlusively for flash.
Although once it gets to this stage /f/ will likely go away and only those with collections will
be able to play/share
>> [_] Anonymous 10/14/19(Mon)11:18:04 No.3405147
>>3405110
>Flash won't be replaced by anything.
Right, but
>Nothing, including HTML5 spec, can replicate its functionality and efficiency.
is just false.
Beyond that, you could build a product with Flash feature-parity and performance-parity (or
better) in the browser by leveraging asm.js or webassembly, and even authoring tools that aren't
stuck in the 90s. That's not happening because there's no demand. Animation? YouTube. Games?
Smartphones. Web enhancement? Modern HTML/CSS/JS. This is good enough for John and Jane. We're
going towards standardized, centralized, and ephemeral, not custom, personal and lasting. The
paradigms that Flash enabled have been obsoleted along with the era of personal pages. Why put in
all the extra sweat necessary to carefully craft something that very few people will ever see
when you could just steal content for updoots on your favorite social media site instead?
