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This is resource YFB2RD4, an Archived Thread.
Discovered:19/9 -2020 21:37:06

Ended:21/9 -2020 00:49:00

Checked:21/9 -2020 07:21:39

Original location: https://boards.4chan.org/f/thread/3439942/why-must-flash…
Recognized format: Yes, thread post count is 16.
Discovered flash files: 1





File: sandman.swf-(7.61 MB, 850x478, Anime)
[_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)15:36:25 No.3439942

  why must flash die

>> [_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)15:38:08 No.3439944

  song is roger joseph manning jr. - sandman

>> [_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)19:08:44 No.3439953

  HTML5 and the fact that Adobe Flash Player is known for its many security vulnerabilities,
  curious to know what will happen to this board once Flash is dead

>> [_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)19:32:37 No.3439958

  Oyasuminasai.

>> [_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)20:12:49 No.3439960

  >>3439953
  Has anyone of importance called HTML5 the alternative to flash? That's retarded.

>> [_] ta-kun 09/20/20(Sun)04:04:27 No.3440001

  >>3439942
  swf is seeing more professional use than ever nowdays. Instead of exporting videos from flash
  studios export swfs and work with them in after effects to stitch them together into a film.
  However, it has been discontinued by the owners and has been blocked by some browsers.

  To understand why flash has been abandoned by adobe and blocked by chrome you need to understand
  what flash is
  >Flash (swf) is a CONTAINER FORMAT, with the exception of being able to compress images, it
  doesn't touch the final product, it doesn't sandwich it into a VIDEO FORMAT.
  >On top of this swf allows you to write whatever you want in actionscript. Actionscript is a the
  programming language that was designed for flash, I believe is it similar to javascript, but my
  knowledge is limited. It is designed to be integrated with the symbols.
  >essentially you can write whatever code you want into an swf
  >essentially making it an executable

  Problems (I am not certain about which came first, they all happened about in perpendicular)
  >Adobe buys flash in the mid 2000s. It has been gaining steam as a format people are using
  around, and adobe wants to capitalize on it by making it the format of the internet.
  >They remove a bunch of the features that made it useful to game devs and animators and try to
  orient it towards web development by cs4
  >meanwhile flash has been gaining steam for a while as a bad boy format as flashes don't have tv
  restrictions and can be as edgy as they could possibly desire.
  >Flash becomes more commonplace for video sharing, but gains infamy because of "security flaws
  >in other words, people downloaded what are essentially EXE's from sources that are not to be
  trusted
  >anybody who has been online for more than 3 seconds knows you don't download exe from a source
  you don't trust, but here you have people who think it is a harmless video and game format
  because it's everywhere and adobe aren't very smart about anything.

>> [_] ta-kun 09/20/20(Sun)04:20:11 No.3440004

  >>3439942
  >>3440001
  pt2
  >steve jobs decides to block flash from his platform, probably because it is harder to control
  and he can't make as much money off of it
  >Formats that allow for video and videogame integration in browser pop up, all of them miss the
  point of flash and are far less stable
  Top fulp said on record at some point that html 5 games from 2015 are already starting to break
  where you can play flashes from 2005 as if they were made yesterday.
  >adobe bends the knee as far as it would go to every demand and tries to implement restrictions
  instead of explaining what the format actually is to the masses
  >policeman and law enforcement, are trained on what flash actually is, and try to give lectures
  to the public on "do not download files from untrustworthy sources"
  >This is a great thing but the perfect storm is already abound and adobe has raised white flags
  long ago.
  I'm suspecting adobe had to deal with lawsuits on behalf of flash, even though it's ridiculous to
  blame a program for what the users are doing.
  >Baby boomers demonized flash, the public keeps stirring it as a safety issue, new formats that
  can exhibit functions that what the public thought flashes were are created and are used to diss
  flash, Apple has long since removed it from their products, adobe is bending the knee for every
  request

  Adobe announces they will stop support of flash and so does chrome.

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)09:47:39 No.3440043

  >>3439953
  1. flash player has vulnerabilities, but not if Adobe would have sandboxed it properly which they
  just never cared to do, it would be possible for a quite very secure flash to exist
  2. javascript is as vulnerable and limited, so the modern alternative is no better by any
  comparison
  3. html5 is not a substitute for flash, not could it be, not in format, interactivity, vector
  graphics or "uploadability"

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)09:48:41 No.3440044

  >>3439953
  also, nothing might happen, becaus there is no cause that would require the effect of just up and
  purging /f/ from the internet
  nobody still uses flash like we do, and we will to continue long after Adobe abandoned it

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)11:23:15 No.3440064

  Flash is secure if you run it in a standalone player without access to the internet. By doing
  this you are not dependent on the whims of adobe and browser developers.

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)12:50:04 No.3440078

  newgrounds is sponsoring the development of a WebAssembly drop-in Flash implementation written in
  Rust
  https://ruffle.rs/

  It's already quite far along, and 4chan can just load ruffle to keep flashes working.

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)13:31:25 No.3440094

  >>3439953
  how about fixing it instead of discarding it?

  if you can emulate entire operating systems on your computer surely it's possible to sandbox a
  little animation.

  i'll never understand why people are just fine with discarding 100s of 1000s of online flash
  games and animations.

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)13:50:29 No.3440103

  >>3440094
  people aren't, but google is
  nobody needs old ass virus animations, when you can just buy the old games anew on steam, amirite
  goyim?

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)14:02:41 No.3440115

  >>3440094
  killing flash was never about security, it was about control of the web ecosystem. Flash was a
  thorn in the side of the W3C and had to be eliminated by the webilluminati.

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)17:26:28 No.3440173

  >>3440094
  how do i commoditise this and make money
  learn to think mr consumer

>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)18:45:43 No.3440183

  >>3439953
  HTML5 replacing flash is complete bullshit but a /5/ wouldn't be a terrible board.



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