File: sandman.swf-(7.61 MB, 850x478, Anime)
[_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)15:36:25 No.3439942
why must flash die
>> [_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)15:38:08 No.3439944
song is roger joseph manning jr. - sandman
>> [_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)19:08:44 No.3439953
HTML5 and the fact that Adobe Flash Player is known for its many security vulnerabilities,
curious to know what will happen to this board once Flash is dead
>> [_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)19:32:37 No.3439958
Oyasuminasai.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/19/20(Sat)20:12:49 No.3439960
>>3439953
Has anyone of importance called HTML5 the alternative to flash? That's retarded.
>> [_] ta-kun 09/20/20(Sun)04:04:27 No.3440001
>>3439942
swf is seeing more professional use than ever nowdays. Instead of exporting videos from flash
studios export swfs and work with them in after effects to stitch them together into a film.
However, it has been discontinued by the owners and has been blocked by some browsers.
To understand why flash has been abandoned by adobe and blocked by chrome you need to understand
what flash is
>Flash (swf) is a CONTAINER FORMAT, with the exception of being able to compress images, it
doesn't touch the final product, it doesn't sandwich it into a VIDEO FORMAT.
>On top of this swf allows you to write whatever you want in actionscript. Actionscript is a the
programming language that was designed for flash, I believe is it similar to javascript, but my
knowledge is limited. It is designed to be integrated with the symbols.
>essentially you can write whatever code you want into an swf
>essentially making it an executable
Problems (I am not certain about which came first, they all happened about in perpendicular)
>Adobe buys flash in the mid 2000s. It has been gaining steam as a format people are using
around, and adobe wants to capitalize on it by making it the format of the internet.
>They remove a bunch of the features that made it useful to game devs and animators and try to
orient it towards web development by cs4
>meanwhile flash has been gaining steam for a while as a bad boy format as flashes don't have tv
restrictions and can be as edgy as they could possibly desire.
>Flash becomes more commonplace for video sharing, but gains infamy because of "security flaws
>in other words, people downloaded what are essentially EXE's from sources that are not to be
trusted
>anybody who has been online for more than 3 seconds knows you don't download exe from a source
you don't trust, but here you have people who think it is a harmless video and game format
because it's everywhere and adobe aren't very smart about anything.
>> [_] ta-kun 09/20/20(Sun)04:20:11 No.3440004
>>3439942
>>3440001
pt2
>steve jobs decides to block flash from his platform, probably because it is harder to control
and he can't make as much money off of it
>Formats that allow for video and videogame integration in browser pop up, all of them miss the
point of flash and are far less stable
Top fulp said on record at some point that html 5 games from 2015 are already starting to break
where you can play flashes from 2005 as if they were made yesterday.
>adobe bends the knee as far as it would go to every demand and tries to implement restrictions
instead of explaining what the format actually is to the masses
>policeman and law enforcement, are trained on what flash actually is, and try to give lectures
to the public on "do not download files from untrustworthy sources"
>This is a great thing but the perfect storm is already abound and adobe has raised white flags
long ago.
I'm suspecting adobe had to deal with lawsuits on behalf of flash, even though it's ridiculous to
blame a program for what the users are doing.
>Baby boomers demonized flash, the public keeps stirring it as a safety issue, new formats that
can exhibit functions that what the public thought flashes were are created and are used to diss
flash, Apple has long since removed it from their products, adobe is bending the knee for every
request
Adobe announces they will stop support of flash and so does chrome.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)09:47:39 No.3440043
>>3439953
1. flash player has vulnerabilities, but not if Adobe would have sandboxed it properly which they
just never cared to do, it would be possible for a quite very secure flash to exist
2. javascript is as vulnerable and limited, so the modern alternative is no better by any
comparison
3. html5 is not a substitute for flash, not could it be, not in format, interactivity, vector
graphics or "uploadability"
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)09:48:41 No.3440044
>>3439953
also, nothing might happen, becaus there is no cause that would require the effect of just up and
purging /f/ from the internet
nobody still uses flash like we do, and we will to continue long after Adobe abandoned it
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)11:23:15 No.3440064
Flash is secure if you run it in a standalone player without access to the internet. By doing
this you are not dependent on the whims of adobe and browser developers.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)12:50:04 No.3440078
newgrounds is sponsoring the development of a WebAssembly drop-in Flash implementation written in
Rust
https://ruffle.rs/
It's already quite far along, and 4chan can just load ruffle to keep flashes working.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)13:31:25 No.3440094
>>3439953
how about fixing it instead of discarding it?
if you can emulate entire operating systems on your computer surely it's possible to sandbox a
little animation.
i'll never understand why people are just fine with discarding 100s of 1000s of online flash
games and animations.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)13:50:29 No.3440103
>>3440094
people aren't, but google is
nobody needs old ass virus animations, when you can just buy the old games anew on steam, amirite
goyim?
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)14:02:41 No.3440115
>>3440094
killing flash was never about security, it was about control of the web ecosystem. Flash was a
thorn in the side of the W3C and had to be eliminated by the webilluminati.
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)17:26:28 No.3440173
>>3440094
how do i commoditise this and make money
learn to think mr consumer
>> [_] Anonymous 09/20/20(Sun)18:45:43 No.3440183
>>3439953
HTML5 replacing flash is complete bullshit but a /5/ wouldn't be a terrible board.
