File: Firefox.swf-(560 KB, 640x360, Japanese)
[_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)11:36:56 No.3469225
Looks like Firefox will remove yet another useful feature still in use by many people today:
https://news.slashdot.org/story/21/07/24/0213220/mozilla-stops-ftp-support-in-firefox-90
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)11:38:19 No.3469226
(Let's see if our newfag mod here on /f/ deletes this thread as well because I dared to post
something that may start a conversation. Hope he's learned his lesson.)
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)11:42:52 No.3469228
>>3469226
wait, does that work like filezilla?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)12:02:45 No.3469231
>>3469228
as far as i know firefox have always only supported downloading files via FTP, not uploading
a ton of file servers from big companies only serve files via FTP. they link to these static
files from their HTTPS website. can be things like patches or utility tools, especially for older
files. just like with flash companies won't bother to renew their old shit and the files will
just become inaccessible for people that don't even know what a FTP client is
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)12:07:15 No.3469233
The Google dominance and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)12:16:48 No.3469234
what's more worrying is their "intent to deprecate non-secure HTTP". once http:// stops working a
lot of old websites hosted on free web servers will become unavailable. probably many thousands
such sites that have been up and running with no maintenance or second thought for over 10 years.
sure, how many will miss them but i just think it's a pity.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)14:31:49 No.3469242
>>3469234
they don't care. google and facebook have https, who cares about anything else?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)14:58:53 No.3469243
>>3469242
don't forget about twitter, reddit and 9gag
>> [_] ta-kun 07/26/21(Mon)15:30:03 No.3469244
Getting tired of some of firefox's quirks, I am thinking of switching browser. I want something
that doesn't eat my cpu constantly.
opera seems nice but it still takes up significantly more cpu than firefox.
What do you guys think is the best browser right now?
>> [_] anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)16:12:23 No.3469246
>>3469244
internet explorer
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)18:04:13 No.3469255
Remove Firefox.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)19:27:59 No.3469259
>he didn't freeze in version 83.0
>he can't flash
>he soon won't FTP
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/26/21(Mon)21:19:22 No.3469274
>>3469259
>post-firefox 51
ngmi
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)02:23:50 No.3469282
>>3469244
i've heard that Brave Browser was created by the former leader of Firefox after he was fired due
to some woke reason. don't know if it's true or how reliable the browser itself is though.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)03:17:48 No.3469287
>>3469231
The intersection of 2021 firefox users, who need to download files via FTP, and who don't know
what an FTP client is, will be vanishingly small.
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)03:29:54 No.3469288
>>3469282
I heard about brave before... I didn't pay it much mind at the time because /g/. It looks decent,
I'll get it and see how it does.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)04:17:01 No.3469294
>>3469225
>https://news.slashdot.org/story/21/07/24/0213220/mozilla-stops-ftp-support-in-firefox-90
FF Removes FTP.
WOW modern browsers are getting more and more shit !
If we did not need another reason to hate nu-FF.
FF turned to shit with quantum !
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)04:20:17 No.3469295
>>3469234
>non-secure HTTP
OH no you are not browsing secure if you also don't have a spyware SSL certificate authority that
records every website you visit !
Literally these idiots think that you should be worried that some magical internet rely nodes
will steal your password however magically the SSL certificate authorities will not.
Its simply stupid and a move to add more tracking and spyware on the internet.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)04:21:20 No.3469296
>>3469282
>of Firefox after he was fired due to some woke reason.
The CEO was thrown out because he donated to anti LGBT organizations or something.
Then FF turned to shit.
You do the math. FF is dead ! nu-FF is a cancer that needs to die !
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)04:33:29 No.3469297
>>3469296
>it's the guy who made FF good in the first place
I'm sold. I'm gonna get it.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)04:35:11 No.3469298
>>3469225
god i hate nu-web browsers
FTP isn't even that heavy or demanding to keep in, just tell people to be careful or something if
you really ""Care"" about user safety, like with a pop-up you fucks.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)04:52:14 No.3469300
>>3469295
to be fair there are 100s of countries in the world that would love nothing better than the
ability to listen to what their citizens are posting on forums. i see it more as a way to ensure
people are safe from their government compared to someone stealing a password.
if you look at it that way it's a good mission to get rid of HTTP but i don't think they should
completely remove it, just make sure the users of the browser know they are communicating openly
(big warnings, especially when sending post data).
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)09:06:46 No.3469312
Brave is sketchy and should be avoided. List of reasons why:
>> https://old.reddit.com/r/24hoursupport/wiki/productstoavoid#wiki_brave
Firefox is the only non-chromium browser left. Brave/Yandex/Opera/Edge/Etc are all just reskinned
Chrome. Firefox is down to like 5% market share. They had to fire like half of their developers
this past year. I feel bad for them.
Removing features that no one uses is better than keeping them in and unmaintained/buggy/in
secure. Just grow up and use FileZilla.
If you don't want to use FireFox or Waterfox (based on an older version of FF), and want
something chromium based, the best option is "Ungoogled Chromium". It's basically the Open Source
Chromium browser but with anything Google specific/tracking related removed.
>> https://www.waterfox.net
>> https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)09:15:26 No.3469313
>>3469300
Snowden picture.jpg
>to be fair there are 100s of countries in the world that would love nothing better than the
ability to listen to what their citizens are posting on forums
> it more as a way to ensure people are safe from their government
This statement is nonsensical.
The USA will tell the certificate authorities to hand over their keys or they are vanished.
And they do it only they have gag orders preventing them form saying this, same for china.
Same for ISPs if you think you are protected form the government by SSL I have to laugh.
No you get more control to the government who of course owns the SSL authorities.
There literally is no need for SSL. Literally ZERO !
The hypothetical example is someone planting some spying equipment on a rely station only:
1) This equipment costs millions
2) The government is already doing this
3) The Certificate Authorities already gave the government their keys so the government knows all.
There is literally no reason for this. The only reason for SSL are fagots who use public hot
spots and the hot spot is compromised and will steal your passwords.
Out side of this ZERO.
SSL give the government additional ways to shut down a website for example revoke its SSL
certificate and the users get a big RED warning sign that its not secure.
Did you all miss the fact that we live in a post Snowden world ?! HELLO ! This is not 2005 !
>what their citizens are posting on forums
Facebook already forwards all you post and all the data they have on you to the gov.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)09:17:29 No.3469314
>>3469312
>Firefox is the only non-chromium browser left. Brave/Yandex/Opera/Edge/Etc are all just
reskinned Chrome
This. Its important to remember that there are no other code bases for browsers everyone simply
takes chrome and modes it since they can like with linux where everyone can make their own linux
dystro.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)09:19:18 No.3469315
>>3469282
brave browser is undeniably shit, it's just reskinned chrome with meme crypto and brave's own
spyware added
also eich is the creator of javascript, and if you consider the design of javascript "good" then
i offer my condolences
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)10:05:47 No.3469316
>>3469312
>Just grow up and use FileZilla.
You're missing the point. It's about people that don't even know they are using FTP when
downloading old programs. Telling someone that they should "grow up" when they complain about
features being removed is childish btw.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)10:11:24 No.3469317
>>3469313
>This statement is nonsensical.
thinking that that statement is nonsensical proves that the rest of your post is nonsensical so
thanks for putting it at the top. now keep enjoying your safe suburbian lifestyle in a country
with comparatively little corruption to the majority of the world.
>The USA will tell the certificate authorities to hand over their keys or they are vanished.
fukken wat, look up how a HTTPS handshake happens
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)10:14:26 No.3469318
>>3469312
>Firefox is the only non-chromium browser left.
How can you forget about Pale Moon on /f/?!?
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)10:17:46 No.3469319
>>3469318
Could you say a few words about pale moon? I tried to look into it and saw almost no information.
Even /g/ barely talks about it.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)10:36:10 No.3469322
>>3469319
It forked from Firefox in 2015 or something. I think it's the only browser to still support the
Flash plugin. I've been using it almost exclusively since the start of this year. Biggest
drawback is the single-process memory usage accumulation.
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)10:40:16 No.3469324
>>3469322
Does it include sources in its inspection window?
One of my biggest pet peeves about firefox is that I can't rip images off of sites and have to
switch browser when I want to do that.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)10:54:43 No.3469328
>>3469324
I'm not sure what that means, but I can save random images just fine by right-clicking and
selecting save image as.
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)11:08:23 No.3469332
>>3469328
When you inspect the page on a browser it should let you access assets from the site itself,
things you are not supposed to download; things you cannot download by right clicking.
https://files.catbox.moe/62ddlr.png
This is not available on firefox
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)11:14:28 No.3469334
>>3469319
>>3469322
Recommend https://basilisk-browser.org/ instead.
It's by the same people (person?) behind Pale Moon but it uses a little more modern GUI version
of Firefox. Flash works with Basilisk as well.
>>3469324
Can you give me an example of a page with stuff you can't download in Firefox? I've not run into
this limitation myself. FF does have an inspector as is shown in the image linked in >>3469332
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)11:35:40 No.3469335
>>3469334
https://web.archive.org/web/20180320140127/http://animatorexpo.com/mememe/
Here is the website in the screenshot.
You cannot download the images here
Not only that, it is pretty common for website to not allow you to left click on their assets and
just download them (it's treated as part of the site, not embedded images)
If you inspect on firefox you cannot find sources and cannot access these images.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)12:05:57 No.3469338
>>3469335
In Firefox: Hold down shift to bypass the script that disables the right-click menu.
You can now right-click images and either "Save Image As" directly or "Open Image in New Tab" and
then press Ctrl+S to save it.
The image at the absolute top of the page (the one that slides down when the page loads) was a
little harder to save, then I selected "Inspect" from the right-click menu and looked at the css
(style) information. The 'a 'element inside (header>h1) was set to have a background URL, I
right-clicked it > copy url > paste in browser's address bar > ctrl+s to save it. The blue
bicycle image can also be found in this way.
An alternative is to press Ctrl+I (or Alt>Tools>Page Info) and go to the Media tab, for a list of
images on the page. Select an image there and press the Save As button.
Another more tricky alternative is to clear your browser's cache (Ctrl+Shift+Delete) and reload
the page. After it is fully loaded you navigate to about:cache and look at the "Storage disk
location" path, open the folder in your computer's file system. Use filesizes to figure out which
file is which, copy and rename them. You can also "List Cache Entries" in about:cache for a lot
more information as well as a direct download link (you can't save directly from the cache
unfortunately even though it displays a HEX view of the cached file, maybe there's an add-on for
that though, I also wish it displayed the hash that the saved file is using for easier lookup).
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)12:22:12 No.3469339
>>3469338
Shift right click seems to work for a lot of things, not everything.
Sorry, I don't understand ccs, I'll try method 2 when I can pay more attention to it later.
I'm gonna try the storage disk location trick later as well.
It's still kind of annoying that it's not there, and I'm still annoyed that firefox sometimes
glitches and won't let me access the taskbar. Good to know at least I don't have to open another
browser just to get some tough images.
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)12:35:58 No.3469343
>>3469339
You don't need to understand css. Just select "Inspect" and then scroll down the middle section
(of the three vertical inspection sections) until you see something that looks like an image URL
and hover it to see if it's the right image.
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)12:45:30 No.3469346
>>3469343
Can you post an image of that? I'm not seeing anything that looks like an image url. It's
supposed to be under console, right?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)12:54:10 No.3469347
>>3469346
No, the Inspector tab (middle section). Can look something like this:
background: url("/web/20180311011235im_/http://animatorexpo.com/img/pc_header_logo.png")
no-repeat 0 0;
Sometimes (or usually) there will be no mention of "http" but in this case it does in the middle
of the URL since it's hosted by waybackmachine.
Make sure the correct thing is selected in the left section of the Inspector tab (avoid
deselecting whatever you picked to Inspect). Some sites will hide their image containers behind
other containers, then you can select nodes in the left Inspector section and press delete to
remove them from the website. Keep deleting until your image disappears, then you Ctrl+Z and
you'll know that the node selected contains the image that you're looking for. If it feels
difficult you can start by looking in the Page Info's Media tab instead (Ctrl+I), though if the
page has a ton of images it can take a while to locate what you are looking for in that list.
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)13:03:08 No.3469349
>>3469347
Got it. Thank you!
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)13:33:14 No.3469360
>>3469322
>only browser to still support the Flash plugin.
Guess we're ignoring Waterfox then
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)13:40:33 No.3469362
>>3469360
something about it being owned by an ad company and not having so many eyeballs inspecting the
source code has made me disregard it
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)15:55:26 No.3469377
to get any picture from a site, can't you Tools -> Page Info -> Media ?
I do this to get flashes usually though.
>> [_] ta-kun 07/27/21(Tue)15:56:50 No.3469378
>>3469377
>tools
how do you access tools?
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)16:05:02 No.3469379
>>3469378
It's in the menu bar at the top.
https://files.catbox.moe/1s396f.png
>> [_] Anonymous 07/27/21(Tue)16:05:52 No.3469380
>>3469378
Simply pressing Alt should do.
Also you can permanently show the menu bar from the settings.
