File: The Usual Mr Nordon.swf-(8.23 MB, 768x432, Loop)
[_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)12:44:08 No.3461060
Windows just force-uninstalled the ActiveX version of flash on my computer.
>Update for Removal of Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1809 for x64-based systems
(KB4577586)
>Successfully installed on 2021-03-01
No heads-up, no option to say no. Why do they do this to us?
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)13:46:27 No.3461067
>>3461060
I wouldn't be surprised if each update on windows comes with a flash kill switch
>> [_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)13:55:07 No.3461069
>>3461060
>Windows 10
What? Did you think you were in control of something there, OP? Your windows system is property
of Microsoft Inc.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)14:36:29 No.3461072
install gentoo
>> [_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)16:26:02 No.3461075
Anybody know how to hack ActiveX back? Adobe's ActiveX installers refuses to work on Windows 10,
saying that Windows Update will take care of it.
Adobe had over 3 years to end flash gracefully but they really failed at that.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)17:01:13 No.3461076
>>3461060
movie sauce never ever
>> [_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)17:02:26 No.3461077
>>3461076
as usual, Mr Anon
>> [_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)20:29:17 No.3461099
>This update cannot be uninstalled
Thanks Windows! I was afraid I'd do that by accident.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/01/21(Mon)22:41:05 No.3461105
>>3461075
Just a guess, as I don't touch winshit 10... Have you tried running the installer in
compatibility mode for windows 7?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)00:37:40 No.3461107
>>3461060
stop automatic updates. use gpedit and manually disable the service in services manager.
why did you not do this when you first got the computer. updates do nothing for you.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)01:16:08 No.3461109
>>3461060
i'm still using an older version of flash from apparently right before the killswitch. i've been
totally unaffected.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)07:49:12 No.3461120
>>3461105
You gave me a little hope but no, that didn't work.
I wonder what needs to be hex edited in the installer to remove the operating system check.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)09:37:23 No.3461126
>>3461107
I would love to know how to do this
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)10:11:38 No.3461127
>>3461060
>Why do they do this to us?
They actively hate flash.
>>3461069
>>Windows 10
Also this. Win 10 is slavery.
simply install flash 8 trial on your system and you get a perpetual SWF player with it to use
forever. Download the SWF file and play locally.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)10:14:12 No.3461128
>>3461126
Not him but go to C:\Windows\system32
Find gpedit.msc, right-click and run as Administrator
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update
Right-click "Configure Automatic Updates" and Edit
Select Enabled and pick "2 - Notify for download and auto install"
>When Windows finds updates that apply to this computer, users will be notified that updates are
ready to be downloaded. After going to Windows Update, users can download and install any
available updates.
Hm, I guess this will just make windows nag you forever to install its updates. Not sure if you
will be allowed to say no to an update? Maybe >>3461107 would enlighten us what gpedit setting he
is talking about.
After reading his post again he is probably just talking about shutting down the Win Update
service, which doesn't have anything to do with gpedit as far as I know (derp).
Run C:\Windows\system32\services.msc as Administrator
Right-click Windows Update and pick Properties
Set startup type to Disabled.
Hm, it was set to Manual for me, which means windows starts this somewhere else?
Check in C:\Windows\system32\taskschd.msc (as Administrator)
Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Windows > WindowsUpdate
I had a "Scheduled Start" task here that starts the windows update service.
It only has a "one time" trigger at 23:49 today so I guess windows update deletes this task and
creates a new one every time it runs?
Confusing.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)10:18:40 No.3461129
>>3461128
anon what the fuck too much text for my dumb ass
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)10:19:32 No.3461130
>>3461127
>simply install flash 8 trial on your system and you get a perpetual SWF player with it to use
forever. Download the SWF file and play locally.
Why would you do that when you can just use Adobe's free flash projector instead?
The benefit of having the ActiveX flash plugin was to be able to use Media Player Classic to play
flash files with a seekbar so you can jump around in the swf file and/or see how much of the
animation that is left. It was the best flash player and Windows Update took it away.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)10:20:44 No.3461131
>>3461129
you made me kek out loud, thanks for that
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)10:25:50 No.3461133
>>3461130
>The benefit of having the ActiveX flash plugin was to be able to use Media Player Classic to
play flash files with a seekbar so you can jump around in the swf file and/or see how much of the
animation that is left. It was the best flash player and Windows Update took it away.
I did not know about this.
> to use Media Player Classic to play flash files
I remember doing that in MPC on XP. one SWF file biked my sound LOL.
>Adobe's free flash projector instead?
Teach me sanpai !
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)10:27:59 No.3461134
>>3461133
Not much to teach, you go here:
https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html
Download flashplayer_32_sa.exe and use it to open swf files.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)10:56:40 No.3461137
>>3461060
WHO CAN IT BE NOW
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)11:02:53 No.3461138
>>3461134
Thanks is there a problem with the method I use to view flash?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)11:15:47 No.3461139
Download flashpoint, it'll have all the old versions of flash. Open one of their flash versions
to open all flash files. I haven't seen win10 force uninstall that yet for me.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)11:19:10 No.3461140
>>3461138
if your "flash 8 trial perpetual swf player" works it works, but adobe's final flash projector
supports more flash features and have more security patches. probably not that many swf files
that make use of those newer features so chances are you'll never run across a flash file your
older player won't be able to play.
>>3461139
need the ActiveX plugin to use the best flash player (media player classic)
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)11:23:38 No.3461141
>>3461140
>newer features so chances are you'll never run across a flash file your older player won't be
able to play.
Ehm I did come across some files here like 1% that where bugged in the 8 version however once I
used your method they are playable.
Any other good advice?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)13:10:00 No.3461145
>>3461141
Not that I can think of.
But I will mention that Windows Update also removed C:\Windows\SysWOW64\FlashPlayerApp.exe when
it removed the ActiveX version of flash, which is used by Adobe's flash projector for global
settings. So it also broke a piece of the projector.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)13:21:52 No.3461147
>>3461145
>But I will mention that Windows Update also removed C:\Windows\SysWOW64\FlashPlayerApp.exe when
it removed the ActiveX version of flash, which is used by Adobe's flash projector for global
settings. So it also broke a piece of the projector.
Interesting I'm on windows 7 any suggestions how to play flash in MPC ?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)14:01:38 No.3461148
>>3461060
>Why do they do this to us?
It's called non-free software for a reason man.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)14:09:21 No.3461149
>>3461147
You should be able to just run flashplayer_32_ax_debug.exe and install the ActiveX plugin, then
install K-Lite Codec pack, which includes Media Player Classic:
http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm
Adobe's last non-timebombed 32.0.0.371 installers can be found here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20200605082328/https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/
debug_downloads.html
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)15:01:40 No.3461151
>>3461060
> not disabling auto update as first thing after you reinstall the Windows
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)15:19:52 No.3461152
>>3461107
>>3461151
>"why are my computer fans always running at max???"
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)15:26:53 No.3461153
>>3461060
Thanks for the heads up! I just disabled that particular update with the "Show or hide updates"
troubleshooter.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)15:47:26 No.3461156
>>3461060
>>3461069
>>3461107
>>3461151
*laughs in Linux
Proprietary software is an injustice, you reap what you sow using an OS that owns you.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)16:05:27 No.3461158
>>3461156
Does you precious Linux even have any programs that uses the ActiveX plugin lololol.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)18:11:56 No.3461164
>>3461069
is it okay to install linux and use windows on virtual machine? It doesn't suck too much of the
computer?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)18:17:54 No.3461165
>>3461164
I've heard good things about running Windows via KVM, but I haven't done it personally so take
that with a grain of salt.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/02/21(Tue)21:35:00 No.3461170
I only boot to my Win 10 for some games, but I go back to my cozy Linux when I actually want to
do anything else., like browse /f/.
It sucks that these big tech companies think all their users are stupid and aren't won't be
allowed to install things like flash, since "I know more than you. We are geek squad people. You
are lard tards. I never heard of flash, so it must be bad (maybe it's russian hack software?) so
let's just ban it."
I swear 4chan will soon be a relic of the past like flash. The internet, and essentially all of
society, is being slowly taken over communist-style by elites who want to control you, and all
their followers who want to feel superior to you.
Who knows. The internet might go from billions of websites to a few huge ones (It's already
happening, but forced on you like the flash delema). I mean, if you are allowed to make a
website, you might be wanting to spread misinformation or viruses. Windows will more and more
become a stripped-down android-type interface, and you won't be allowed to do anything else but
click the game or "app" you want to run. Any game they decide to cancel because it's not woke
enough will be automatically deleted.
So all this stuff is fleeting and you should enjoy it while you can.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)01:08:14 No.3461178
>>3461128
sorry for not going into detail earlier.
yeah i use
configure automatic updates- enabled - 2
along with
remove access to all windows update features - enabled
that way it doesnt nag you even if windows update service starts up somehow
I also fully disable windows update service like you mentioned.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)03:56:57 No.3461181
I'm glad I disabled wuauserv a long time ago.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)04:21:46 No.3461183
>>3461158
>>3461156
>*laughs in Linux
>Proprietary software is an injustice, you reap what you sow using an OS that owns you.
Basically this, the idea why people like linux and GPL is because it RESPECTS us. If you use
proprietary shit you are on the mercy of the corporation owning it. What the corporation gives
the corporation can take away.
>>3461158
>Does you precious Linux even have any programs that uses the ActiveX plugin lololol.
Not that I know (others can correct me if it can be installed into wine thereby running on even
2021 linuxes LOL XD LOL).
However this death of flash should be a lesson to all of you. The corporation who owns flash now
Adobe wants it dead. This would not be happening if flash was GPL or a CC0/BSD standard. No one
could kill flash like this. This thread is about how win10 also decided to kill flash for you.
This should make you think further then "this new tech has this shiny thing in it". This should
make you rethink your ideology of sucking corporate shit because the corporation sprinkled some
sugar on its shit.
This brings me back to linux and why people love it linux RESPECTS ME so I respect it back
corporate shit does not respect you like you can see today.
There are incidents like this in the linux world however linux """""fragmentation""""" is the
best thing ever
For example Canonical the corporation making ubuntu linux decided to install spyware in its OS.
People jumped shit and made a new fork of the ubuntu code named linux mint and switched from
ubuntu (or did go to a different distro of linux). Literally practically everything is the same
in mint only there is no spyware from canonical
Proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
There are other stories like this like openoffice.org who was developed by oracle decided to
start shit, people forked the code and created libreoffice
Now libreoffice is the default and I think even oracle abandoned maintaining openoffice.org
This is why alternatives are important
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)04:23:22 No.3461184
>>3461170
The truth is spoken !
The internet of old is disappearing!
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>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)12:58:04 No.3461194
>>3461076
https://archive.org/details/dmbb46801
apparently it's this?
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)13:05:02 No.3461195
>>3461194
I should specify - i think this is the source, since there is a guy in the movie called Nordon
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)13:42:02 No.3461197
Has anyone made a non-browser front-end for /f/ yet? You know just a GUI to grab and open files
in the offline player.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)13:59:36 No.3461199
>>3461156
flash is proprietary too but i agree. nobody should be using windows especially these days.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)14:15:18 No.3461200
>>3461170
>I only boot to my Win 10 for some games, but I go back to my cozy Linux when I actually want to
do anything
There are still ways in Win10 but agreed, Win10 is rapidly moving into the "consume-but-don't-pr
oduce" mindset. My Win10 is all entertainment, my Linux server is all work.
>It sucks that these big tech companies think all their users are stupid
Treating the end user as a money poop tube has always been the end-game. Shovelware goes in,
money shits out.
>I swear 4chan will soon be a relic of the past like flash.
4chan of today is nothing like it was 2012-2016. Witness the flash in the pan that was Anonymous
vs. CoS, now it's all SJW bullshit.
>The internet, and essentially all of society, is being slowly taken over communist-style by
elites who want to control you, and all their followers who want to feel superior to you.
That already happened, people were too busy staring at their selfies to notice.
>Who knows. The internet might go from billions of websites to a few huge ones
It's already happened. The "early Internet" aka pre-2000 websites was a vast frontier that anyone
could claim, and it was filled with all kinds of folks and websites. Now it's "what can you make
with our rented hosting tools".
> I mean, if you are allowed to make a website, you might be wanting to spread misinformation or
viruses.
We are in the early phase of a cultural attack designed to shred the fabric of society. It's
unfortunately working, so far.
>Windows will more and more become a stripped-down android-type interface
Any time you see "Store" built-into software, it's always "the company store". Dwell on this.
>Any game they decide to cancel because it's not woke enough will be automatically deleted.
Probably soon. I would not be surprised if we see this in about 2 years or less, unless
trajectory changes.
>So all this stuff is fleeting and you should enjoy it while you can.
I am. And be sure to webscrape it too, before they are FORCED to take it down.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)14:18:00 No.3461201
>>3461194
>>3461195
The soundtrack sounds like Boards of Canada, but I'm not certain.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)14:27:30 No.3461202
>>3461072
>install gentoo
Install Alpine and get on with life.
>>3461127
>They actively hate flash.
Because of the security holes; most folks here are too young to remember the embarrassment of
security that was Windows XP, and how Gates (who was still Prez at the time) took a giant
internal shit on the entire company via email about how bad security was at MickeySoft, and how
it was making them a laughingstock of the industry. The company did a huge pivot internally and
started to clean up the shitstorm they had put down over the past decade, closing up all the
loose ends in their code. It took them nearly a decade, but by Win7 most of the most glaring
deficiencies were coded out/around, and since then ANYTHING that was an embarrassment to them was
promptly given a biblical-style stomping to kill it off. Flash happened to make that short list,
since they took up the process of force-patching it, but that didn't stem the tide of security
holes, so they simply put a bullet in its head.
ActiveX is a mid-90's technology zombie that MS created and is desperately trying to kill at
every turn. Again, most of 4chan is too young to remember "Exploder.ocx", an early pre-2000
ActiveX control that when run in IE as unsigned code, literally issued a system shutdown to your
computer; visiting a website TURNS YOUR COMPUTER OFF. Embarrassing shit like that is why code
signing became "a thing" at MS. The fact that you are relying on Active X is a bad, bad sign;
just suck it up with a non-standard browser like palemoon that still supports the old plugin
framework, and accept that this is the only real way you can make flash-in-browser still work. (I
don't care that it is Palemoon, it's an example, point is use something that isn't active kill
for flash and just get on with life)
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)14:30:04 No.3461203
>>3461194
Confirmed, the catch phrase is 9m20s into the track.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)14:32:53 No.3461204
>>3461060
>No heads-up, no option to say no.
The lifestyle you ordered is no longer in stock.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)14:35:46 No.3461205
>>3461075
>Anybody know how to hack ActiveX back?
Don't, just don't. See >>3461202
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)14:40:04 No.3461206
>>3461158
>Does you precious Linux even have any programs that uses the ActiveX plugin lololol.
ActiveX is shit. "Let's make it so you can download a chunk of native x86 binary code and execute
it using your browser as the framework" was the thought.
What could possibly go wrong...
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)14:50:31 No.3461207
>>3461170
>So all this stuff is fleeting and you should enjoy it while you can.
Made me think of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mli6jXtNBQ
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)15:04:33 No.3461208
>>3461202
>ActiveX
MS does not understand how to use a VM or simply close off and visualize.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)15:06:15 No.3461209
>>3461206
>What could possibly go wrong...
That MS is to retarded to understand how to setup a VM or virtualization layer.
>of native x86 binary code
There is literally nothing wrong with this. Not in the way you are thinking.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)15:09:43 No.3461210
>>3461208
>>3461209
System-level partitioning on 32-bit x86 platforms didn't exist at the time ActiveX was released,
literally. Yes, placing it in a VM or container, or some other method of sandboxing would make
sense 20 years later; but ActiveX appeared around the time of Win95/98, about 8-10 years too soon
to benefit from this.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)15:14:20 No.3461211
>>3461210
>but ActiveX appeared around the time of Win95/98
And it was impossible to make it on XP and 7 how exactly?
My XP machine was capable of having full blown VMs in it I think the same is true for 95.
Sure it will not allow you to have full blown rendering of graphics in the VM however it will
work.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)15:37:40 No.3461213
>>3461211
>I think the same is true for 95
(facepalm)
Yes, you can run VMs on XP, using modern hardware; I used VMWare on XP for several years to spin
up dev images. The point I was making is AT THE TIME ALL THIS SHIT CAME OUT the support wasn't
there, yet.
>1995: Windows 95 appears.
>1996: ActiveX support in IE 3 appears.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX#History
It's a re-badge of COM/OLE shit, but that's tech so old no-one remembers it. It's also insecure;
hence this:
https://webdevelopmenthistory.com/1996-microsoft-activates-the-internet-with-activex-jscript/
Scroll down to "The User Experience".
Microsoft realizes they fucked up royally and backtrack, see end of 2nd paragraph:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX#History
Here we see the sudden genesis and advent of code signing at Microsoft, not as active protection,
but as an afterthought to prevent unsigned code from running, aka "don't download random programs
and run them in your browser".
>1999: VMWare shows first virtualization product for x86
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_virtualization_development#Year_1999
>2005/2006: Intel and AMD come out with hardware-level support for virtualization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization#Hardware-assisted_virtualization
I'm not denying it's possible to do what you are saying, I'm just saying AT THE TIME THIS ALL
CAME OUT, sandboxing ActiveX into a VM didn't exist for Windows.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)16:17:27 No.3461214
>>3461201
Turns out it's this:
https://soundcloud.com/tennysonmusic/the-usual-mr-nordin
>> [_] Anonymous 03/03/21(Wed)16:38:12 No.3461217
>>3461213
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX#History
From the article
>this contrasts with the sandboxing already used in Java at the time.[11]
I'm saying that MS is retarded, fucks up and then is lazy and tries to solve it by throwing dog
shit at the fire.
At this point in 2021 ActiveX is secure by obscurity/obsolescence.
The most retarded part of ActiveX was using low level shit in a web language. Its almost as
retarded as making x86 assembly for the web. Keep pushing to these registers baby.
Oh and never in my life on XP did ActiveX fuck over my PC or anything.
