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[_] [L] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)05:04 No.1583230
>> [_] O RLY? Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)07:45 No.1583262
The problem is greed; and it's not so much a problem as it is an incentive for achievements in
moderation.
More money, better flash animations, better food, etc, and these all come at a cost which can be
controlled by an individual or a group who controls what the price is (unless we remove money
altogether, but it acts as a good medium between labors that cannot be directly exchanged).
Another subset of society may not be able to meet the costs (or well to the standards that others
enjoy), thus we have crime.
And to stop crime, we give up our own incentives to deal with matters personally unto others who
both seek to prevent crime and mete out justice in a fair manner.
Did you post this because you're an imbecile or because you're a dick?
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)08:01 No.1583263
>>Another subset of society may not be able to meet the costs (or well to the standards that
others enjoy), thus we have crime.
Do you honestly believe this to be true? In some European countries the minimum standard of
living is pretty high and if you fall bellow that minimum the state will provide it for you. Yet
they still have just as much crime as the rest of the world.
Besides, the topics touched in the flash video is much broader than just crime prevention.
>>Did you post this because you're an imbecile or because you're a dick?
The same question comes back to you. I don't understand why you got so upset by it.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)08:32 No.1583269
"Your" creation is just the result of thousand of people who worked for put thousand of
experiences and concepts in your head, "your" creation is a creation by the human and natural
system, all human creation is a collective creation.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)08:34 No.1583270
I was laying out an example of how this philosophy is too fantastical to exist in reality of
diverse people. All the flash animation does is promote duplicating or standardizing a new type
of similar persons akin to propaganda pushers today. "Look how different we are, how much better
all of our lives can be".
Crime is just a simple example of how people can quickly give up their liberties and how power
can landslide towards a particular subset of the society. If you'd prefer other examples, there
are plenty that can be used instead.
Also there is also no point in stating that a "few" Euro nations may have a higher minimum status
quo -- Europe enjoys a globally economy and the scope of how those nations and others around them
must be argued together.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)08:48 No.1583273
I remember when my dad showed this to me 8 years ago.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)09:10 No.1583277
>>1583270
Pointing out how some European nations prevents crime was a direct response to your shrewd views
of why crime occurs. If some nations have problems with crime in the sense you voiced earlier
then they're creating or escalating the problem by not taking proper care of the poor. The
problem here being greed albeit from a different point of view than yours.
>I was laying out an example of how this philosophy is too fantastical to exist in reality of
diverse people.
OK. I partly agree on this but...
>All the flash animation does is promote duplicating or standardizing a new type of similar
persons akin to propaganda pushers today.
I disagree with you here since I can't see the correlation between what you just said and what I
view is merely promoting some of your basic human rights.
In what way does this flash animation "promote duplicating or standardizing a new type of similar
persons"? You have to be more precise on that since I'm having trouble seeing it.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)09:51 No.1583280
I'm gonna go pirate something.
Take that voluntary exchange of property! I'm stealing someone's past! Bammo!
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)10:43 No.1583286
I'll take the hit for crime; I didn't intend to limit the cause to this alone, but tried to
simplify my example (and apparently over-simplified it -- there's only so many characters allowed
per post).
In the flash animation, there is nothing in it that compels one to identify themselves as part of
a larger community. Currently, we "right" by certain laws (hopefully in a fair and just). How can
any two groups coexist while maintaining distinct beliefs that can and often do conflict?
Ethics are a product of man; since humanity enjoys a wide spectrum of diversity, so too their
beliefs of right, wrong, and acceptable. Unless this Philosophy of Liberty concludes that we must
brainwash the masses into acceptably similar beliefs, there will be conflicts both micro and
macrocosmic to a society that cannot be resolved with just hugs, kisses, and an empty flash
animation.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)11:09 No.1583292
> government initiation of force can be stopped by the people by telling the government to stop
Ha ha ha, oh wow.
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)11:50 No.1583302
Animation doesn't do it justice
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)11:56 No.1583303
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
>> [_] Anonymous 12/04/11(Sun)13:38 No.1583326
>Assuming man is inherently good
>2011
I seriously hope you guys dont do this.
