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[_] [L] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)18:34 No.1635685
Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)20:01 No.1635727
Who are you and why should I give a shit? I post this here due to him disabling comments on
youtube... Also of what little I watched I think this guy may be a scientologist. Correct me if
I'm wrong as I can't stomach this guys disbelief and hatred of everything. No I am not a
Zeitgeist follower.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)20:10 No.1635731
Everyone hopes for better world.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)20:24 No.1635750
His first argument bothers me.
He claims that having a world where virtually all resource-based labor is performed by machines
(and that the machines are maintained by machines, etc., etc.) is vague, and unrealistic. But
what he describes is a phenomenon futurists call the technological singularity. It's a REALLY
long ways off, and may be impossible, but the idea of machines creating, designing and
maintaining other machines is often discussed as an inevitability as well. Of course, there are a
lot more aspects to the singularity than that, and I don't know near enough to continue, but the
point stands that autonomous, independent machines are not a crazy idea.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)20:32 No.1635758
>>1635731
Then why the fuck do you want to live in tyranny ?
Because that is exactly what the Venus project wants to do - a fucking computer telling you what
YOU want. It's communism, with a PC in charge instead of Lenin.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)21:21 No.1635779
>>1635758
you obviously have no idea what you're talking about
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)21:31 No.1635784
What I wanna know is how the fuck are resources will suddenly become abundant if in today's world
that can't be done due to things like greed.
There's no way robots could create a utopia... I doon't doubt the existence of higher functiong
robots but the idea of humans just submitting to them and never doing shit themselves is just...
>wall-e, idiocracy
Maybe it could be a reality... Not one I would want to live in...
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)21:39 No.1635791
>>1635758
The Computer is your friend. Trust the computer! Are you happy, citizen?
(unhappiness is treason, punishable by death)
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)21:45 No.1635796
>>1635750
What makes it unrealistic is Turing's stopping problem. It's been mathematically proven that no
machine (electronic or mechanical) that accepts an input and converts it into an output can ever
successfully process all possible inputs. There will always be some combination of inputs that
throws it into an infinite loop of processing without production, and no machine can even detect
said inputs before being crashed by them.
Even a simple calculator will crash if you try to divide by zero.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)22:02 No.1635806
>>1635796
Turing's stopping problem was only an issue when the quickest way to record data was by punching
cards. With modern and estimated future backup speed, third party input filters, virtual machines
and the ability to reboot without tearing the gears of your logic engine to shreds (eg having a
computer from the late 1980s or later), Turing's stopping problem isn't an issue for the
singularity.
Tldr; Turing's stopping problem: Yes, it's a thing. You just reboot and recover, losing about
five minutes worth of processing. Whoop de shit.
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)22:03 No.1635808
where are the rest of the video
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)23:01 No.1635832
>>1635758
your a fucking retard. every day you are subject to the 'tyrany of money' you must live by the
dollar, or die by your lack of dollars. how is that somehow better?
and no, a computer is an extention of a calculator, capable of operating simple mathematics on a
gigantic scale. the thing isnt going to tell you what you can and cannot do, its going to tell
you what the best thing you can do is. and whether or not you do that is up to you... at least
the machine is being honest... unlike politicians...
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)23:19 No.1635844
He totally lost me on the Harry Potter thing. Also, everything else.
I don't know about everyone else, but I like the idea of an immortal god AI ruling benevolently
over mankind, it sounds awesome. Until it kills us all and replaces us with robots.
EFFICIENCY IMPROVED 500%
>> [_] Anonymous 03/12/12(Mon)23:30 No.1635854
>implying we live post-scarcity
