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[_] [L] Anon 1635685 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 1635727 Who are you and why should I give a shit? I post this here due to him disabling comments on youtube... Also of what little I watched I think this guy may be a scientologist. Correct me if I'm wrong as I can't stomach this guys disbelief and hatred of everything. No I am not a Zeitgeist follower.
>> [_] Anon 1635731 Everyone hopes for better world.
>> [_] Anon 1635750 His first argument bothers me. He claims that having a world where virtually all resource-based labor is performed by machines (and that the machines are maintained by machines, etc., etc.) is vague, and unrealistic. But what he describes is a phenomenon futurists call the technological singularity. It's a REALLY long ways off, and may be impossible, but the idea of machines creating, designing and maintaining other machines is often discussed as an inevitability as well. Of course, there are a lot more aspects to the singularity than that, and I don't know near enough to continue, but the point stands that autonomous, independent machines are not a crazy idea.
>> [_] Anon 1635758 >># Then why the fuck do you want to live in tyranny ? Because that is exactly what the Venus project wants to do - a fucking computer telling you what YOU want. It's communism, with a PC in charge instead of Lenin.
>> [_] Anon 1635779 >># you obviously have no idea what you're talking about
>> [_] Anon 1635784 What I wanna know is how the fuck are resources will suddenly become abundant if in today's world that can't be done due to things like greed. There's no way robots could create a utopia... I doon't doubt the existence of higher functiong robots but the idea of humans just submitting to them and never doing shit themselves is just... >wall-e, idiocracy Maybe it could be a reality... Not one I would want to live in...
>> [_] Anon 1635791 >># The Computer is your friend. Trust the computer! Are you happy, citizen? (unhappiness is treason, punishable by death)
>> [_] Anon 1635796 >># What makes it unrealistic is Turing's stopping problem. It's been mathematically proven that no machine (electronic or mechanical) that accepts an input and converts it into an output can ever successfully process all possible inputs. There will always be some combination of inputs that throws it into an infinite loop of processing without production, and no machine can even detect said inputs before being crashed by them. Even a simple calculator will crash if you try to divide by zero.
>> [_] Anon 1635806 >># Turing's stopping problem was only an issue when the quickest way to record data was by punching cards. With modern and estimated future backup speed, third party input filters, virtual machines and the ability to reboot without tearing the gears of your logic engine to shreds (eg having a computer from the late 1980s or later), Turing's stopping problem isn't an issue for the singularity. Tldr; Turing's stopping problem: Yes, it's a thing. You just reboot and recover, losing about five minutes worth of processing. Whoop de shit.
>> [_] Anon 1635808 where are the rest of the video
>> [_] Anon 1635832 >># your a fucking retard. every day you are subject to the 'tyrany of money' you must live by the dollar, or die by your lack of dollars. how is that somehow better? and no, a computer is an extention of a calculator, capable of operating simple mathematics on a gigantic scale. the thing isnt going to tell you what you can and cannot do, its going to tell you what the best thing you can do is. and whether or not you do that is up to you... at least the machine is being honest... unlike politicians...
>> [_] Anon 1635844 He totally lost me on the Harry Potter thing. Also, everything else. I don't know about everyone else, but I like the idea of an immortal god AI ruling benevolently over mankind, it sounds awesome. Until it kills us all and replaces us with robots. EFFICIENCY IMPROVED 500%
>> [_] Anon 1635854 >implying we live post-scarcity