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>> [_] Anon 2533192 >># who cares?
>> [_] Anon 2533196 ITS OVER
>> [_] Anon 2533200 I'm waiting until they go on sale before I buy one.
>> [_] Anon 2533202 >># /f/ is the only thing that keeps me in this site.
>> [_] Anon 2533211 >># I come for /f/, the occasional /v/, the porn boards and /int/ for the bantz.
>> [_] Anon 2533217 >># New users are turning it shit, mods are turning shit. 4chan is slowly becoming like other sites, i hope it die soon.
>> [_] Anon 2533223 >># >implying its getting worse It's always been this bad and forever will always be this bad. Please fuck off with your stupid "fukken newfags shittin up my 4chanz" shit. Also, 4chan pass is made because people wanted to donate but moot wouldnt accept donations because he felt he owed them something. 4chanpass is the best thing for both people.
>> [_] Anon 2533224 >># Have you visited /v/ or other boards? you know what is happening right?

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[_] Anon 2239388 GOD DAMN IT MOOT good thing I bougth a 4pass Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 2239396 Why libera me from hell?
>> [_] Anus 2239398 >># because reasons
>> [_] Anon 2239399 I got €100 for christmas and I spent it on scotch and manga instead of buying a pass zero regrets, I'm glad I didn't give that kike any of my money
>> [_] Alfonso 2239410 >># Because moot moot fight the captcha
>> [_] Anon 2239417 Sauce on music? Isn't it from Gundam?
>> [_] Anon 2239418 >># No, it's from Gunbuster.
>> [_] Anon 2239428 >># >># It's from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
>> [_] Anon 2239435 >># Wrong. It's clearly FLCL.
>> [_] Anon 2239439 >># its boku no pico you fucking faggot
>> [_] Anon 2239445 >># >># was slightly humerous >># >># >># bow its just samefaggery you three apologize nao for thoe who are serious about where its from its from tengen toppa gurren lagann
>> [_] Anon 2239475 Fucking captcha on /f/, GOD DAMN
>> [_] Anon 2239479 >># stop bitching and give your money the captcha is nothing unless u are blind and can't read
>> [_] Anon 2239521 >># 天元突破グレンラガン There your welcome!
>> [_] Anon 2239529 >># For really real?
>> [_] Anon 2239547 >># dem spoonfeeding

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[_] Anon 1830354
>> [_] Anon 1830366 I don't remember... what?
>> [_] Raguspan 1830374 I don't understand why you're upset about this, OP. The way I see it, he has to keep up this site and be a credible employer somehow. Unless you're willing to pitch in some cash, the experience is the same.
>> [_] Anon 1830384 i wish he called it a 4chan gold account...
>> [_] Anon 1830411 I demand to see 4chan's tax returns desu~!!
>> [_] Anon 1830417 I even remember seeing the original dicussion on /q/ with it being called 4chan gold passes..
>> [_] Anon 1830543 >># >># That would have been hilarious.

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[_] MOOOOOOOT MOOOOT 1817449 MOOOOOOT Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 1817520 Fuck moot.
>> [_] Anon 1817524 I dont get this passes are an easy way to support 4chan and you even get to skip the captchas nobodys forcing you to buy one, nor is it required. it just makes it a bit easier to support the server
>> [_] Anon 1817536 >># >support 4chan sold out, and went mainstream. Face it, fuckface. R.I.P. 4chan
>> [_] Anon 1817542 >># rip
>> [_] Anon 1817544 >># rip in peace, fourchin
>> [_] Anon 1817546 if you were on /q/ just before passes were released people were complaining about having to type captchas and also asking moot to stop being such a faggot and take donations. you asked for this
>> [_] Anon 1817554 /f/ still doesn't have captchas.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817563 >># Fuck you 4chan needs money, ads don't pay the bills. $20/year, 4chan stays afloat, captcha removed for pass users, everyone wins. Don't say moot should remove captcha for everyone, on /f/ it's not a problem but other boards were just getting slaughtered by the spam pre-captcha.
>> [_] Anon 1817577 Moot just really wants to go back to Mexico
>> [_] Anon 1817584 >complaining about passes on the one non-captcha board.
>> [_] Anon 1817589 >># >posting with a tripcode on /f/ >Hanako in tripcode you are the worst kind of faggot, and probably migrated here from reddit. Get out.
>> [_] Anon 1817593 I really don't see why people are whining about passes. Captchas are necessary to prevent spambots. The 4chan pass allows people to bypass that. The only thing about the whole thing I don't agree with is not taking donations in addition to selling passes.
>> [_] Anon 1817604 >># Fuck off.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817619 >># Never been to reddit. Used to go to digg back in the day though.
>> [_] Anon 1817622 >># Moot literally refuses to accept donations, and there's no way in hell that I'm paying to bypass a system he implemented. If moot allowed donations, it would take less than 1% of the site's userbase donating $0.50 to fund the site for a year.
>> [_] Anon 1817623 >># For well over a year, I mean. And anyone who pretends that a permanent CAPTCHA is the only way to prevent spam is just a moron. KC has very little spam at all, and this is because they have a CAPTCHA that automatically switches on whenever the post count becomes abnormally high.
>> [_] Anon 1817624 im just content that fucking captchas are gone from /f/ again without paying for passes
>> [_] Anon 1817625 >># >compares kc with 4chan how new are you exactly, friend?
>> [_] Anon 1817630 >># Probably been here longer than you. Our problems would be solved very easily with a selective system instead of a blanket CAPTCHA. Spambots would be crippled if they were forced to answer a CAPTCHA if the site determined they were posting too fast. Even things like the cancerous .js scripts would be easily combated by this.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817633 >># There's already a 30-second cooldown after posting, you know?
>> [_] Anon 1817639 >># >When posting becomes abnormally high. >On 4chan. >Thousands of post per second. At what point is it abnormally high? Do you see why that doesn't work?
>> [_] Anon 1817642 >># And? The spambots are programmed to wait 30 seconds. There's nothing they can do if they end up with a CAPTCHA for the next few hours after they rapidly post too much. Basic reading comprehension is required for discussions that take place through text.
>> [_] Anon 1817644 >># Do you understand the definition of "abnormal"?
>> [_] Anon 1817646 >># My point is on a high traffic website like 4chan 'abnormal' can be a difference of several thousand post AND if you set it too low you're stuck with a blanket captcha anyway.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817647 >># You do know that you can press the submit button while it's still counting down, it'll autopost right when the cooldown ends. I hit this all the time.
>> [_] Anon 1817649 >># I'm sorry, but you must be unaware of the magic of software. It would be incredibly easy for a computer to determine what the average post rate is, and then see how much higher it was at peak hours. >># I'm not sure what you're getting at. The post is still tied with your IP, and the reason your post goes through is because of your the extensions you have on your browser.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817654 >># Wrong again. Not using any browser extensions, only the inbuilt one. My point is, my dumps would look exactly like spam if it weren't for captcha
>> [_] Anon 1817657 >># You really have not thought this through, friend. If you set the captcha to activate whenever peak traffic is reached then you're left with the vast majority of users being stuck with captcha, because most people do not spend much time on 4chan outside of the after work/before dinner window. It would also mean that in the really slow hours the boards would be flooded with spam anyway, because it would take a truly god damn monumental amount of spam bots to reach peak hour traffic during the early hours of the morning in the US. Plus the average post rate isn't really abnormal, even in the slow hours. Shit changes on a day-by-day basis. It just doesn't work for so many reasons.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817659 >># >># sorry for sucking so much cock, anon
>> [_] Anon 1817660 >># again. >># Plus, that doesn't even get into the problems of making it some kind of dynamic average. You would need to integrate a shit tone of flash into the website itself and it would just become so cumbersome. Page loading would grind to a halt, the whole site would be more or less useless.
>> [_] Anon 1817662 >># >my dumps would look like spam if it weren't for captcha What? You would still be filling out a CAPTCHA and waiting 30 seconds either way. What the fuck are you smoking? >except the inbuilt one The inline extension cloned many of the features that 4chan X had for years. What's your point? Besides, it doesn't fucking post until 30 seconds later, so any automated system would still be able to catch you. >># >if you set it when peak traffic is reached I didn't say that. Learn to read. I'm also not advocating the same exact system on 4chan, I was just saying KC's system was well thought out and vastly superior. >># >flash What? What are you talking about? Oh, and that's exactly the reason moot did not create the inline extension until recently. He claimed any additions to the site would fuck things up on a massive scale.
>> [_] Anon 1817664 >The Death of 4chan >Things continue as they normally do, save for the site gradually changing with the new attitudes of the userbase.
>> [_] Anon 1817666 >># >It would be incredibly easy for a computer to determine what the average post rate is, and then see how much higher it was at peak hours. If you're not saying that the limit on when captcha is activated is during peak hours, what the fuck is the point of the quoted passage above? How else would you go about setting up dynamic tracking of average post made on a minute-by-minute basis? That's how you'd need to do it. Can't do that in HTML5, no amount of CSS would do that. Can't use many other coding languages to code a website. You're left with flash as an option, and flash -could- do that. It's just flash sucks for any sort of website-wide function.
>> [_] Anon 1817668 >># >what the fuck is the point of the quoted passage above? I'm sorry that you are having difficulty understanding, but I'm saying that a computer would be able to tell what the average post rate was for any given time of day, and it could even do it on a board by board basis if needed. >you're left with flash as an optin I'm sorry, but you really have no place in this discussion, as you have no idea what you're talking about. Are you under the impression that Google analytics is flash based?
>> [_] Anon 1817671 >># >Difficulty understanding. No, man. You have no idea what you're saying with that passage. A computer would easily be able to figure out what the average post rate was for any given time of day, on any given day. On a board by board basis. That's not in question. The problem is that the average changes EVERY god damn day, sometimes by a significant degree. The computer wouldn't be able to monitor it in real time. No, you need a server bank for something like that on a site like 4chan. An average is easy, but no, constant monitoring is impossible with just a lone computer. Also, you keep talking about the average. The average is useful but it would make a horrible base line for when to activate the captcha, so what do you propose the limit be? How many degrees above average become abnormal? You're going to end up with people bitching no matter where you set it. Finally, I mixed up flash and java. It's 3 AM in my country, you expect me to be on top of my game?
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817672 >># Wow I sure got burnt there!
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817673 >># W...What? I'm really losing you now.
>> [_] Anon 1817679 >># I'm not sure what you mean. You aren't posting when you hit "submit". You're telling the extension that you want it to automatically post when the timer expires. Please tell me what you do not understand about this. >># >The problem is that the average changes EVERY god damn day No, it does not. >with just a lone computer You really must be retarded. 4chan already numbers every single post and lists the times that everything was posted at. All you would have to do is set something up that looks at how many new posts there are every so often, which would be incredibly simple because 4chan already lists all the newest posts on the front page. >I mixed up flash and java It has nothing to do with either, you goddamn mongoloid. Flash and java are both client side. This software would be server side. Not that monitoring in real time would even be necessary.
>> [_] anonymous 1817680 If you eat pancakes before they cool down, odds are you're going to burn your mouth
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817681 >># >I'm not sure what you mean. You aren't posting when you hit "submit". You're telling the extension that you want it to automatically post when the timer expires. That is exactly what I'm trying to say too. When I post it's usually dead-on the 30 second deadline. Just like a spambot would
>> [_] Anon 1817682 >># And now we're back to square 1 of this discussion. What I'm proposing would detect people doing this, and then force them to fill a CAPTCHA out. If you want to dump, you have to fill the CAPTCHA out. Everyone who isn't wasting server bandwidth with large numbers of images and machine gun posting gets to post without a CAPTCHA.
>> [_] AdamB15 1817683 Captchas are only holding off fucking retarded spammers. We're still getting the daily (possibly hourly) posts about cleanfiles and the gifs of porn that turn out to be about motherless.cc or some dumb spammy shit. Also, the many variations of prankcell. These threads last forever and do not get taken down. Captcha is underarmor, we need kevlar.
>> [_] Anon 1817684 >># Bitches gonna bitch.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817685 >># Your solution is retarded. It works fine as it is. If you really can't afford a pass, then, well, it sucks to be you. Seriously, $1.67/month. I spend more than that on fucking gum. All your solution does is make a fractures user experience, to the point where the average peak would probably shift as people try to avoid the captcha. And then moot still has the problem of how to pay for everything. You're arguing this hard over $20? You must be either an incredible tightass or too broke to afford an internet connection.
>> [_] Anon 1817687 >># He must be jewish.
>> [_] Anon 1817690 >># This is why I hate arguing with someone who is just slightly above average. They get the air of superiority but none of the ability to recognize their own faults.
>> [_] Anon 1817691 So much mad in this thread. Can't even tell if there is trolling at all.
>> [_] Anon 1817692 >># And now you resort to ad hominem. I said much earlier on that I would gladly donate, but I there's no way in hell I'm paying to circumvent a system that is largely unnecessary. >fracture user experience But telling people that they must pay to get the old user experience doesn't already do that? Please. >the average peak would shift as people try to avoid the captcha You're confusing two different discussions. I was merely talking about the feasibility of implementing an automatic boardwide captcha with the other guy. I wasn't promoting it. >moot still has the problem of how to pay for everything He could simply put up a "donate" link. Like I said before, less than 1% of the userbase donating $0.50 could fund the site for over a year. >># Above average what?
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817697 >># Moot has explained many many times why he doesn't take donations any more. Also, >a system that is largely unnecessary So, in other words you weren't here pre-captcha. It was fucking awful, let me tell you. It got to the point where one script was just flooding itself for free, so that anyone else who wanted to could flood 4chan. Really.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817704 >># ohh noooos my tripfag reputation is at stake
>> [_] Anon 1817705 >># >you weren't here pre-captcha I was, and I'm not saying we do not need anti-spam measures. I'm saying the current system is unnecessary, since it attacks all users unless they pay. If for some reason you do not believe me, I could go as far as uploading one of the old .js files to mediafire. Some of the spammers used to go on /g/ and post links to their code on pastebin. >moot has already explained why he doesn't take donations I'm aware of his reasons, and they're incredibly stupid. He doesn't take donations because he is incapable of understanding that there isn't a dichotomy between not asking for money at all or becoming Jimmy Wales mk II.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817720 >># >I was, and I'm not saying we do not need anti-spam measures. I'm saying the current system is unnecessary Compare this with what moot said in a recent news post (4chan.org/news?all#106) >2010 brought wave upon wave of spam in the form of JavaScript worms and affiliate link spammers, and the state of the boards reached a new low. After months of trying to mitigate the spam through various means, we resorted to implementing reCAPTCHA across the image boards, intending it to be a temporary fix. Fortunately, it was successful in blocking most automated attempts to spam the site, and immediately reduced the number of malicious images being uploaded to our servers. Without CAPTCHA and other measures in place, the site today would be completely overrun with spam as it was in 2010.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817721 Without CAPTCHA and other measures in place, the site today would be completely overrun with spam as it was in 2010. Without CAPTCHA and other measures in place, the site today would be completely overrun with spam as it was in 2010. Without CAPTCHA and other measures in place, the site today would be completely overrun with spam as it was in 2010. Get it? It's here to stay because it works.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817723 >># Seriously, what are you trying to achieve?
>> [_] Anon 1817725 >># >># I never said that we don't need any CAPTCHA system at all. You're just creating a strawman argument here. Seriously, just read my posts again and you will not see anything about totally removing CAPTCHA.
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817728 >># anal devastation achieved >use ass cream generously
>> [_] f4r !HanakoDlmg 1817731 >># If you really believe you have a genuine, workable alternative to captcha all the time, I strongly suggest you email moot instead of just bitching here. Shit, if moot actually implements it I'll gladly say I was totally wrong, buy you a beer, fuck, I'll even grant you three wishes.
>> [_] Anon 1817740 >># but the propaganda and nagging IS forced on us

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[_] RA RA FIGHT THE CAPTCHA Anon 1802312 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 1802321 why dont we just find moot and kick his ass for selling our home?
>> [_] Anon 1802336 >mfw moot only did this because he got spammed with requests to do it
>> [_] Anon 1802357 i fucking love this song, and the anime it's from. captcha: English hadadab wat
>> [_] Anon 1802419 What song is this?

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[_] MOOOOOOOT Anon 1771633 MOOOOOOOOOOOOT
>> [_] Anon 1771639 so?
>> [_] Anon 1771640 I dont see the hate for donating money to something i like
>> [_] Anon 1771646 song source?
>> [_] Anon 1771651 >># Its from Gurren Lagann Troppa ost its Libera me from hell.
>> [_] Anon 1771665 >># Whats the name of the remix though?
>> [_] Anon 1771669 This pay system is something awful hope you got 20 bucks
>> [_] Anon 1771674 >># HAHA I GET IT PAYING FOR SOMETHING AWFUL
>> [_] Anon 1771676 >># Hell yeah, nigga. Got mine. Fuck capcha and fuck google. Lovin this shit.
>> [_] Anon 1771730 I bought myself a Pass. Will there be a 4chan to use it on soon though?
>> [_] Anon 1771766 >># There will be, if you buy a pass
>> [_] Anon 1771769 And soon, 4chan has divided to two sides - premium fags, and poor fags.
>> [_] Anon 1771770 >># its not a remix is original from TTGL soundtrack
>> [_] Anon 1771772 Jesus christ. You know that Moot implemented passes only because so many people were asking for them, right? And that he specifically stresses the importance that buying a pass gives you ABSOLUTELY ZERO privilege aside from bypassing the Captcha?
>> [_] Anon 1771777 >># but... but... we have to complain! that's what this whole website is about, right? complaining about things we don't understand and don't affect us?
>> [_] Anon 1771784 aren't you kind of losing anonymity? also what happens when advertisers get passes...
>> [_] Anon 1771786 >># then the boards become shit (moreso), and people complain, and moot changes the rules best part is this is not set in stone, he can adjust everything as needed. every single 4chan user buys a pass? he drops the price to almost nothing. only trolls and spammers buys passes? he cranks the price way up.
>> [_] Anon 1771790 >># You mean the 10 guys on /q/ asked for them. Not like I care anyways, I don't see any captchas around here anyways
>> [_] Anon 1771800 Don't buy pass: Nothing changed Buy pass: no captcha You're free to do this, isn't it preferrable over no 4chan at all? It's like people rioting against cuts in southern europe, god save your freedoms, we'd just rather have the whole thing crash instead, right?
>> [_] Anon 1771816 Does this mean it's ok to make a spambot if I buy premium?
>> [_] Anon 1771830 >># >># >># were you guys too dumb to read his news posts? or are you just too lazy to read? moot specifically addressed this and the pass is tied to your ip address, if an advertiser/spammer is dumb enough to buy a pass and post with it, he just gave 4chan a free 20 bucks cause his ass getting banned = losing the pass as well. moot is not an idiot.
>> [_] Anon 1771849 >># >moot put captcha on 4chan >moot charges people to remove captcha >you angry at captcha, which prevents spam >you angry at google, which provides recaptcha for free
>> [_] Anon 1771858 >># no, moot implemented passes because there's money to be made i would have done the same thing. seriously, it's like a cash cow fell into his lap. first of all captcha remains to prevent spam. but some people can pay to bypass it. however they still cant spam since they will lose their pass, thus losing money (meaning spammers won't buy passes). meanwhile the pass doesn't actually give much benifit over regular users, so regulars (non-passes) won't feel mistreated. not only does it give people the "satisfaction" of "helping" 4chan, but moot can actually claim that he didnt implement it for the money but only because people asked him too! best thing is that since Anon suggested it noone can know if it was really moot himself that came up with the idea in the first place and suggested it to himself and was leading the campaign for it over at /q/ under a different name (cont)
>> [_] Anon 1771859 (cont) all i wish is that he removes the huge letters everywhere that advertises the thing. the small "4chan Pass users can bypass this CAPTCHA. [Learn More]" text below the captcha box is enough. Though he should really rephrase that sentence so that it doesn't remind people that there are privileged users that doesn't need to type the captcha. especially "4chan pass" needs to be removed, it reminds people too much of "4chan Gold Account" i wonder though, if it was so easy for him to get a VISA/MasterCard payment acceptance service for the site, why didn't he do something like this sooner? for example, you could pay to download all the files in a thread in a zip file or something. must be many more ways to earn money without any effort from this site
>> [_] Anon 1771865 >># >># You obviously don't go to /q/ at all. People were begging to donate for months before /q/ was even re-opened and one of the first things /q/ suggested was the captcha bypass, to which moot replied "well it's not donating, so I'll consider it" or something along those lines.

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[_] Anon 1767492 Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 1767501 Within time we will pay to get access to certain boards, never forget this was the start.
>> [_] Anon 1767520 >># People have been asking for "4chan gold" which was effectively the same thing, for at least a year. Before it was a joke but then it became a serious thing, that's been coming up on the ask4chan board alot.
>> [_] Anon 1767528 >># This is a good thing, maybe eventually we can pay to ban ponyfags.
>> [_] Anon 1767542 >># Maybe /x/ will become good again
>> [_] Anon 1767545 the start of the end....
>> [_] Anon 1767554 This user comment requires a 4chan pass to be viewed. If you have already purchased a 4chan pass please log in using the settings panel.
>> [_] christfag !IRoBOQheBg 1767566 lulz - first OC i've seen on here in years
>> [_] Anon 1767586 >># https://www.4chan.org/pass
>> [_] Anon 1767587 it is not april...
>> [_] Mr. B !jTwseny72A 1767593 Why are people upset about this? You're not required to pay them money. This is solely for people who want to. Moot would never be so stupid to start demanding people pay money to see boards. You people are idiots.
>> [_] Anon 1767594 MOOT STEALING DONATIONS AND RUNNING TO MOOTXICO
>> [_] Anon 1767597 This will be the end of 4chan. And nothing of value was lost
>> [_] Anon 1767613 >># This. Everyone was ok with typing captcha so far, so what's the problem here. On the other hand lazy richfags will love it.
>> [_] Anon 1767619 so.... is moot going to add the captcha in /f/?
>> [_] Anon 1767621 >># No one gives a fuck about /f/. Everything will be fine.
>> [_] Anon 1767629 MOOT. NO. WHAT DID YOU DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!?!?!??! Well everyone. Welcome to the end of free 4chan.
>> [_] Anon 1767633 This user comment requires a 4chan pass to be viewed. If you have already purchased a 4chan pass please log in using the settings panel.
>> [_] t00m/b/ !muOQjkpGis 1767641 >implying users asking to give money for something close to useless is a bad thing Unless this leads to an epic "Mootxico 2 Electric Boogaloo", then you people need to stop being retarded.
>> [_] Anon 1767654 >># only after starting to browse and post in /f/ have I realized how awful the capcha is. The worst thing is I can't afford a pass.
>> [_] Anon 1767669 With this, it means that /b/ and /v/ will be nearly impossible to make a thread in again without it 404ing in less than 5 minutes due to all the increased activity on those boards as captcha normally adds 5 to 15 seconds to the time it would take to post something.
>> [_] Anon 1767671 People were literally begging moot to for a 4chan pass system on /q/. At first he hated the idea, but Anons argued that since 4chan is barely solvent, it was better than taking on donations. They also added that it gives moot a method to remove the captcha (which he has never liked) for legit posters without opening up 4chan to massive spam. Lurk Moar.
>> [_] Anon 1767674 anyone else think this is a great idea? fuck you apocalypsefags >see that moot accepts donations, its an option >WE'RE FUCKED SOON PAYING WILL NOT BE AN OPTION its pretty comical.
>> [_] Anon 1767683 >># our oasis
>> [_] Anon 1767688 >># Never underestimate the powers of a troll. Seriously, it sounds like Rush Limbaugh started making posts...
>> [_] Anon 1767698 >># >comment
>> [_] Anon 1767699 >># You're not getting the point.
>> [_] Anon 1767712 RIP ForeChain