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>> [_] Anon 3086136 Bring back property rights. Restore the Kings.
>> [_] Anon 3086146 yes yes and yes
>> [_] Anon 3086159 >># >For thousands of years, artists did basically the same thing with only minor improvements >That wasn't stagnation This guy put far too much effort into making a video saying 'I was born in le wrong generation and everyone should just make pwetty pictures'
>> [_] Anon 3086169 >># but objective standards in art will hurt people's feelings and make the untalented/unskilled feel like they're less of an artist than davinci
>> [_] Anon 3086174 >># yeah because a lump of literal shit on the ground as a statement is much better and worthy of praise than an intricately carved sculpture made out of rock that took months to finish.

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>> [_] Anon 3030346 >># Posting in bait thread
>> [_] Anon 3030348 >># completely accurate, but reposted to death
>> [_] Anon 3030349 >># 4chan is art.
>> [_] Anon 3030355 I wouldn't take artistic advice from anyone that uses the Impact typeface unironically.
>> [_] Anon 3030358 >># IMPACT
>> [_] Anon 3030368 This whole thing is literally ''I DONT LIKE THING, STOP MAKING THING'' 2deep4u
>> [_] Anon 3030377 Oh hey it's Prager University! What is Prager University you ask? Well, it's not a university for one, but it has Dennis Prager's name in it. Who is Dennis Prager? an American politically conservative nationally syndicated radio talk show host, columnist, author, and public speaker, tied to 'think tanks' such as the American Enterprise Institute. Robert Florczak, the guy speaking in this video, is an artist in the "Pre-Raphaelite" style. Why would someone enamored with pre-modern art have a bone to pick with "Modern Art"? It is a mystery.
>> [_] Anon 3030378 This guy is a retard.
>> [_] Anon 3030380 >implying this video isnt an art project
>> [_] Anon 3030382 >MUH DEGENERACY
>> [_] Anon 3030383 I'm tempted to start making flashes purely showcasing Rothko paintings, and spamming /f/ with them.
>> [_] Anon 3030386 >># I like Rothko he's cool but I think this modern art thing has been flown to the ground and it's time for something new. But I'm just some guy on the internet what do I know?
>> [_] Anon 3030390 le wrong generation
>> [_] Anon 3030392 This reminds me of that h3h3 guy who's selling his beanie for 60,000,000 dollars.
>> [_] Anon 3030394 Thank you for sharing this
>> [_] Anon 3030396 >># I'm pretty sure that guy browses here for content whenever he hits a dry spell creatively
>> [_] Anon 3030420 >># That word certainly has been slung around a lot these past 3 months.
>> [_] Anon 3030439 >># Why not make one of Malevich's Black Square?
>> [_] Anon 3030464 >># >I didn't understand what they are talking about Expressionism is not art, is what the man is saying. There is good reason for this. I don't consider "butt" art. It has no artistic value, it is just a thing. But because someone "feels butt" there is a display in an "art museum" about it. He is saying that feeling something is art does not equate art. Modern art which is expressionism and nothing else, is not art.
>> [_] Anon 3030468 >># Hey this guy I disagree with has a history making valid points against shitty expressionism I slapped the label of art on. Lets attack where his arguments come from and why he thinks that way instead of debating him. Nihilistic though has caused people to believe that expressionism is art. It isn't, chopping wood isn't art. http://english-ingles.com/en/etymology-o f-art/ This shows that art is something produced with skill and expression of an idea or thought. Expressionism is only one of these things. Expression. It does not necessitate skill. It does not need to portray anything. It is just the artists expression. That is fine if people like it, it isn't art though.
>> [_] Anon 3030470 I buy a lot of modern art. I'm currently bidding on H3H3's "Artist's Beanie".
>> [_] Anon 3030473 >># True, but you're St. Francis preaching to sparrows. These sparrows are responsible for things like "everyone gets a trophy because we're all winners", and the glorious redistribution of wealth. SJW's have ruined the world down to the very definitions of things. Art included.
>> [_] Anon 3030480 >># >inb4 The art piece that is accurate dicks and expresses the artists feelings. >Feeling, not idea or thought Just dedicated expressionism.

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>> [_] Anon 3021608 >># Nice meme, /f/riend.
>> [_] Anon 3021623 can someone throw me a debate of his values, im lost in whats art now
>> [_] Anon 3021625 >># http://swfchan.net/32/156497.shtml?Why+i s+Modern+Art+so+Bad.swf Knock yourself out.
>> [_] Anon 3021632 Cherry-picked examples.
>> [_] Anon 3021636 >># Give me some good modern art.
>> [_] Anon 3021640 >># I dont think he's cherry picking. He probably picked those examples at random. Most modern art is like that. Except for the rock. He probably picked that one on purpose since it's at a museum.
>> [_] Anon 3021641 In case you didn't realize yet, there's one /pol/tard who insists on spamming his shitty /pol/-related flashes every day. This one was posted literally less than 12 hours ago, got a whole bunch of replying /b/ kiddies to reply, and now he posts it again for the american /b/ kiddies to see it too.
>> [_] Anon 3021667 "Let's not give them money and they'll stop" is what you should be getting out of this. Much like with most useless people and companies that live off attention.
>> [_] Anon 3021672 this reflects the modern liberal trashy white folk
>> [_] Anon 3021677 This man is an idiot, and anyone who knows anything about art would be able to tell that a close up of an apron isn't a Jackson Pollock. He clearly has no idea of how to teach students about the beauty of art, the true beauty of art.
>> [_] Anon 3021680 >># >true beauty of art okay, make squares and shit out some color on a paper call it art >you don't understand artistic deep meaning of this masterpiece gtfo white trash
>> [_] Anon 3021683 >># Let me be clear here. Most of the garbage in current "modern art museums" is just that. Garbage. That is why if I were to make do as you say I could not call it art. Modern art comes forth from a desire to create in a unique way, not to "make a statement" like many modern artists attempt to do today.
>> [_] Anon 3021687 I remember seeing someone going into some sort of art exhibit. Two of the ones I remember are: A shovel on a string; and some wood on the ground. I'm never going to claim to know what good art is, but I would judge anyone who says those count as anything resembling art.
>> [_] Anon 3021690 >># This guys a fakkit >wahhh stop going to museams because they don't show old fashioned art thats boring and lame Art truly is subjective and the fact that current Museams are doing better then ever show people prefer the modurn art. I just saw this amazing exzibit the other day.... fuck it was beautiful. brb I will try to find it.
>> [_] Anon 3021693 >># well I forgot the name so of course I can't find it but basically she put mirrors on the floor or some shit and hung a bunch of different colored lightbulbs and she turned out the lights and the light refracted and it felt like you were in space walking among the stars... i didn't describe it well but its modern art and its fantastic.
>> [_] Anon 3021696 >># I wouldn't call that art, but it does sound great.
>> [_] Anon 3021726 He's romanticising like fuck, lots of those pictures were thought to be shit or hella controversial in their time.
>> [_] Anon 3021737 >># I'm a different respondant. I accept your point, using new mediums to create art is extremely important - look at film and animation. but there are very few examples of modern art that would compare to the juggernauts of old, don't you think? His point is that he wants to encourage art to be of the absolute highest quality, and museums should be doing everything in their power to display art that is worthy of outlasting our next few generations.
>> [_] Anon 3021740 >># The only thing I don't get about modern art is like... poop art or just gimmicky art. Like it just seems stupid to me. I don't really understand the mindsets of those who enjoy it let alone give it awards. but I suppose thats not nessasarily a bad thing. to each their own right? I mean.. some people even guinely enjoy poop porn.... or daiper porn... definitly can't get that but it exists.
>> [_] Anon 3021752 I am sorry that the camera fucked over classical styles of realism. Artists have to do something more than just recreate reality to elicit a reaction now.
>> [_] Anon 3021765 >># Theres lots of new modern shit that could be drawn now but not back then. Modern artists just don't want to learn how to actually make art (high talent painter/sculptor etc...) so they just shit on a bible and let everyone look at how edgy they are.

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>> [_] Anon 2522916 I used to have a poster of Leonardo Da Vinci and I would stroke its lips every night before i went to bed to touch myself.
>> [_] Anon 2522926 >># yo dats breddy ghey
>> [_] Anon 2522937 Lol, societal standards change so therefore all art we practice is wrong. We also live in an economy where anyone can be an artist due to economic empowerment. The achievements all the other poor people could have done pretty much would have matched or surpassed the masters. Want to know why the United States and China wear shitloads of medals? Because they have access to the largest pools of people. Art works the same way, anything talent based does. Fuck this moron.
>> [_] Anon 2522950 fuck modern art. I can draw better than most modern artists.
>> [_] Anon 2522952 >># Butt hurt shitty modern artist confirmed.
>> [_] Anon 2522960 >># Rather be a 'modern artist' than a fucking objectivist. That's embarrassing nigga. Go read some Ayn Rand for me.
>> [_] Anon 2522962 >># What the fuck does Ayn Rand have to do with this? Also, having worked in comic art (it's a shitty field, I know), the amount of self important young artists these days is seriously fucking retarded. Hell, the older ones are worse to some degree, but far fewer in number.
>> [_] Anon 2522967 >># go end your life. No one likes your shitty art and you know it. You do nothing but degrade the quality of people's lives. You are literally a shit stain on a painting, and anyone calling you an artist needs to go die with you.
>> [_] Anon 2522977 so the nazis were right in destroying jewish inspired filtht hrough art
>> [_] Anon 2522978 Are we going to do this every day?
>> [_] Anon 2522985 >># Plenty. OP's video is from an Objectivist viewpoint. He's arguing that pieces that focus on some kind of ascension, relationship with god, revolutions, whatever is inherently more valuable that a realistic construction of a female police in body armor taking a piss. It's pseudo-intellectual bullshit. Do you think poor people from the 1600s gave a shit about what the famous painters thought? It's only relevant to a tiny majority of people. Sure. I agree that someone shitting on a side walk and calling it art isn't art. But discounting any modern art simply because it wasn't painted by some rich educated guy isn't right.
>> [_] Anon 2522986 >># There are pseudo standards to beauty, so long as you don't get to specific. Study sociology, mix in a little world history, common themes appear, common hopes, common temptations and common awe-inspiring natural phenomena. Our individual experiences in life usually change us for better or worse to be slightly different than the next one, but it's important to still be able to recognize why a majority would find something appealing, if not for any other reason than to better understand yourself.
>> [_] Anon 2522992 Anyone who supports Modern "Art" needs to be removed from the public forum for advocating terrorism. >inb4 OW THE EDGE
>> [_] Anon 2523000 >># >But discounting any modern art simply because it wasn't painted by some rich educated guy isn't right. The joke is that this applies to modern art as well. Nobody would buy my blank canvases or my scribbles or my pastel-colored rectangles. The name is what matters. Also while we're at it fuck meaningless symbolism.
>> [_] Anon 2523007 Why are you guys hating on my modern art http://www.youtube.com/v/e4v5Zd2FbFk Can't you see how good it is and how hard it is to be an artist in todays society!
>> [_] Anon 2523025 >># To me, art is defined by one simple thing. When I look at it, I want to keep looking. It has to attract my eyes. I want to wander around inside the picture. A good piece of art is something I wish I could enter and live inside. Modern art throws all that shit out the window. Fuck modern art so much. It is cancer.
>> [_] Anon 2523026 MY OPINION IS FACT YOURS IS DUMB
>> [_] Anon 2523046 >># isnt this about how it was CIA funded?
>> [_] Anon 2523096 keked when he tricked his art students into calling his smock a masterpiece.

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>> [_] Anon 2515110 oh fuck not this shit again
>> [_] Anon 2515117 I can't believe how consistently this stupid video evokes so many comment. There are like 14 people who browse this hit hole and none of them know dick about art.
>> [_] Anon 2515119 >># >b-beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. if I think shitting on canvas is art, then it's art!
>> [_] Anon 2515124 >># That reminds me, I remember somebody made an entire wall of different kinds of dildos (Mostly weird ones from bad-dragon) and showed it off at some art musuem somewhere in new york, they put it on display for like a month, and another occasion where somebody made furry-snuff and it was up for modern art. Like jesus christ I can make badly drawn mlp snuff pedo porn and say its modern art, I bet I'd make about 20k
>> [_] Anon 2515125 plz go gallery make friends with art lookers and makers you will never do this because you are a fucking loser and sub human
>> [_] Anon 2515128 >># >It's about making a statement! If the artist says that his shit on the canvas is a poetic metaphor for a simile for an analogy about the struggles of the working class in northern Transnistria, then it's art!
>> [_] Anon 2515149 I guess this is the new guaranteed replies .swf
>> [_] Anon 2515155 I imagine if parents, before the whole post-modernist thing, saw their kid paint a jackson pollock painting they would have kept it around until the kid forgot about it then thrown it in the trash. Either that or, if the kids old enough, be punished for wasting paint by just throwing it around But at some point someone had to sit there and think "yes, I like this, it looks good" Same goes for fashion. Hell, I bet if Kim Kardashian started wearing wide horizontally flat wings on the side of her pants it would start a new trend >># muh opinion must be heard
>> [_] Anon 2515170 >># >New York It was the Kikes all along.
>> [_] Anon 2515177 I agree that modern art has lost standards of objective standards and quality, but i still think art fundamentally comes down to the artists own expression of their emotions and intents. I saw the Death of Socrates in the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art by Jacques-Louis David and it evoked some of the strongest emotions i've felt towards a piece of artwork, even after visiting the Louvre in Paris. Modern Art in my opinion is objectively worse than classical art, but i don't think we can completely discount modern artists as a whole. I don't think that modern artists emotions and expression are any less valuable than classicists since it reflects on the turbulence and nature of the society the artist resides in partly. The execution, though is flawed, or at least in an objective sense inferior to the masters of the classics
>> [_] Anon 2515200 buttmad/10
>> [_] Anon 2515206 There can be objective criteria for art, but consumers (viewers, patrons, whatever you want to call them) of art can easily disregard them, so it's also true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, for better or for worse.
>> [_] Anon 2515247 Beautiful art without a purpose is just as boring as modern art that completely forsakes any standards of beauty imo.
>> [_] Anon 2515253 here's my opinion. reply angrily please!
>> [_] Anon 2515263 guis stop arting differently than i think art is
>> [_] sage 2515300 >># I’ll show u what an ugly kunt can do to a pretty boi like urself, like I said ill bite ur ****ing nose off phaggot wont b so pretty then ay dikhead? Wow u think ur a mad Kunt! Others talked to me and met up with me not pretty bois like urself either fuk wit. Get off ur high chair kunt. As for u im not worried u only have size over me lol, don’t matter how big u r, u still bleed like ne other kunt. Like I said fight me see what happens, as for ur sake ud wanna know how to throw that weight around.. u best b prepared to knock me out or kill me kunt cus ill go hectic on u kunt. An yer il bite ya ****ing face off phaggot, better be prepared to loose ur image kunt. As for ur mates ill bring myy tonga mate again, his naturally bigger then u all lol, and he knows how to use his weight guarenfukingteed.. so bring it bitch
>> [_] Anon 2515302 >All these people using the YOU JUST DONT LIKE IT CAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT AND NOT WHAT YOU LIKE argument Fuck off, you really want to go to a museum and pay money to see someone photograph dogshit and try to pass it as art? Fucking please, modern art is barely above shitposting nowadays, with each "modern artist" trying to event the epic new shocking shitpost And fuck off about expressionism. I express my anger at the world by putting wasps in bowls of cereal, is that art?
>> [_] Anon 2515310 >># >14 people little do you know this is secretly the most popular board but everyone lurks
>> [_] Anon 2515313 >># I don't pay money to look at art. Any art worth looking at is on the Internet, and museums are full of shit. If the museums want to stock their displays with shit, all the power to them.
>> [_] Anon 2515316 >># >is that art? I'll give you one million USD.
>> [_] Anon 2515320 There are two differences between classic art and modern art. In classic art, you were given a huge pile of money to make a piece of art. In modern art, literally anyone can publish art, they get the money after it is done. Second, the invention of the photograph has made it pointless to make art that is just a copy of real life.
>> [_] Anon 2515322 t h i s i s a r t

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>> [_] Anon 2512455 this post is an art
>> [_] Anon 2512457 This guy knows what's up. You don't have to have an art degree or be some kind of aficionado to know that all these cocksucking faggots who smear their own shit on a canvas and call it art are just degenerate morons.
>> [_] Anon 2512458 reposting is an artform
>> [_] Anon 2512459 I'd welcome more like this on /f/
>> [_] Anon 2512471 Seems like to me modern art is about trying not to offending the artist instead of critiquing or actually liking what they see. There's no way anyone with a straight face can say "I like and enjoy painting smeared in shit."
>> [_] Anon 2512472 >># I like and enjoy painting smeared in shit
>> [_] Anon 2512479 Coming from a former art student, I really appreciate what this guy has to say. Most of my art classes didn't teach me how to discipline myself or go very in depth into technique, they were all mostly excercises into how to bullshit your way through critiques with half baked premises and by challenging authority. I understand being simplistic, and experimentive, but you can't challenge conventions when you have no idea what you're challenging. it's the equivilent of some teenager on deviantart saying "I don't need to know anatomy, My work is stylized!"
>> [_] Anon 2512481 I'm not a fan of modern art, but this is incredibly biased.
>> [_] Anon 2512488 >># Guy still has a point though. Some forms of modern arts can be really good, but there's way too many faggots taking advantage of the lack of standards.
>> [_] Anon 2512489 Nobody remembers bad painters. There are many examples of good classical art, but for every Remberant there were countless bob the painters. The fact that we have had history trim away all but the best and then demand that EVERY artist stand up to their work is unreasonable. Shock value art will not stand the test of time. What he is bitching about is rebellion against his view point, and the fact that other people like what he doesn't like. In 100 years, we will know what was actually GOOD from this generation, as it was what was remembered,
>> [_] Anon 2512492 >># what the fuck? why did you repost it again? 100+ shitposts wasn't enough for you in one day? you think something will be different this time?
>> [_] Anon 2512493 >># But that's true of anything at any time. I'm sure there were a million shitty artists during the Renaissance just as there are today, with as many people talking about how amazing their shit was at the time as well.
>> [_] Anon 2512495 glad to know i wasn't to only one finding modern art shitty and childish looking now if you'll excuse me, i have to go and sell rocks on ebay
>> [_] Anon 2512497 The reason why modern art is terrible is because of the invention of the camera. Back In The Day, if you wanted to capture an image, you had to paint a picture. Then, cameras were invented and artists became obsolete. Thus, "art" had to be reinvented from "pictures of stuff" to "pretentious shit we can trick rich people into buying so they can feel profound."
>> [_] Anon 2512505 >># I'd welcome some more actual vector graphic flash files
>> [_] Anon 2512506 Wow. Okay, well... the character limit is going to prevent me from saying this properly but: 1) Saying that art is not defined by the viewer is a fallacy, as art has always been defined by the viewer. Only the ability to interpret and value art has changed. 2) Modern art does not lessen classical art. 3) Art that is provocative like Piss Christ, or The Virgin Mary, are provocative for a reason. They send a message, and are intended to. Which is why... 4) ... His statement about throwing yourself across the ice is pure idiocy. An artist, even a modern artist, does not simply throw himself across the ice. Doing that does not send a message... if it does, then it is indeed art. If an accomplished, skilled artist were to come out, lay down on the ice, make a snow angel and walk off... I would consider it art, and it would be such. Is he protesting the event? Does his action have meaning? contd...
>> [_] Anon 2512507 >># 5) I would argue that his statement about his apron and jackson pollock are a good example of forcing a response. This is the genuine problem with modern art, however... people who are blinded by the artist's fame, and attribute value to it because of that without looking more deeply. Despite this, I would argue that his canvas smock, in that it is representative of every painting he has ever done is, were it to be framed, art. In short, this man is correct... but for all the wrong reasons.
>> [_] sage 2512508 this repost.... such form... such art
>> [_] Anon 2512518 >># can we just agree that if humans make something great, that they'll inevitably shit it up some how, then vice versa?
>> [_] Anon 2512521 What a snob cunt. The examples he gave were shit, and when someone uses words like 'trashy' and 'pornographic' it's obvious they have their heads up their asses.
>> [_] Anon 2512527 I guess he has a point. Modern art is sometimes shit. That urinating police woman is amazing, though, and so are many other pieces. Likewise, there's some absolute shit among classical and renaissance art. So you know, maybe it's not modern art that's shit, maybe it's just shit art that's shit.
>> [_] Anon 2512530 >># >># I don't care what meaning something has. If you put no effort into something then I'm going to continue to call it shit.
>> [_] Anon 2512546 Painting a can of soup is also art. Maybe art is just fucking gay.
>> [_] Anon 2512554 >># >># >># This He seems to think art is some secret club that he and a group of limp dick snobs who wasted their life on an art degree should be in charge of.
>> [_] Anon 2512567 >># looks like /pol/ is right again.
>> [_] Anon 2512573 I agree that alll Rothko paintings need to go. That's about it, though. Can it with all this pretentious talk about the dutch masters and how modern art is shit. Art is supposed to speak to you, not merely be really good at mimicing things that physically exist. To me, that's the high-art equivalent of comic book "tracers". Great art acts as an interpretive mirror for the soul. I've been to many galleries, over and over again, groaning as I walk past the monotony of darkly-painted portraits, but just once I had the priviledge of seeing works from a private collection. It was an abstract-impressionist piece, and I stood there for half an hour, weeping at how beautiful it was.
>> [_] Anon 2512574 >># the "pornographic" virgin mary had clippings from smut magazines in it. trashy means poor quality, and there were no artistic elements in these words, no vision is put into them, no imagination is put into them, no image was in mind when these works were created. they're not just trashy, they're trash. believing the aesthetic value of art is relative is equatable to believing all people are equally beautiful, or "healthy at all sizes."
>> [_] Anon 2512576 >># if you can emotionally identify with anything "abstract" more than you can with human features, you're some kind of retarded.
>> [_] Anon 2512580 >># So insightful, wow. You should be an art critic.
>> [_] DarkThSloThArT !yxBVFEewfI 2512583 I'd ask that guy, why does art have to be competitive? Quality and high standards have to do with it, but its our value system that speaks for this teacher. That said, some art is just too "obscure" to be logically understood.
>> [_] Anon 2512585 >># >I'm sure there were a million shitty artists during the Renaissance just as there are today, with as many people talking about how amazing their shit was at the time as well. No my friend the teaching of art was only reserved for a few privileged individuals. Either you had to have amazing natural talent or high standing in society. At least that's how it worked back in Italy's day.
>> [_] Anon 2512588 >new >different >ugly Ugly like Hieronymus Bosch? Oooh burn!
>> [_] Anon 2512590 >># You don't need an art degree to recognize that art is heading in a terrible direction. The guy in the video just explains how turning back the knob to a less modern style could benefit us all.
>> [_] Anon 2512591 >># The industry was very different back then. He became famous because he was such an incredible worker and made new ways to develop new methods of design that enabled him to not only produce quickly, but also to make changes on the fly in a wink. He was an amazing person in that way. Shit I hate his art, but his work ethic is what makes me respect him.
>> [_] Anon 2512592 >># Let me guess, you like modern arts just because you want to watch eggs fall out of vaginas? Or paintings made with menstrual blood? Something must tingle your fancy since you defend modern arts, what's the point otherwise.
>> [_] Anon 2512593 >># #REKT >># Dude no, we should be laughing at this guy. Did you like that movie Zeitgeist too? The shit they are saying isn't even backed up or a flat lie. Pretty pictures and a confident tone are good tools for making people believe bullshit. All I should say is there IS a standard to art. People still try to tone technique. People still try to be great. I just hate the other shit he brings into his statement
>> [_] Anon 2512594 >># The nazis believed the same thing, calling many great artists "degenerate". They burned those paintings and smashed sculptures, classical and modern alike.
>> [_] Anon 2512595 >># That era of art is still there but it I don't think it exists anymore in our current galleries. If I saw anything like that I would simply avoid it at all costs
>> [_] Anon 2512602 >># reducto ad hitlerum. what's your point? is it bad because the nazis did it? the nazis also built roads and had public education. should we stop doing those things too? OOH, they also ate food to live. i suggest you stop eating right now, if you don't want to be like the nazis.
>> [_] Anon 2512604 >># The Russians did the same under Marxist-Leninist regimes. Do they have a latin term for that? Suck it.
>> [_] Anon 2512616 >># association fallacy.
>> [_] Anon 2512618 >># fallacy fallacy
>> [_] Anon 2512619 THE UNIVERSE IS FAKE SO THEREFORE YOUR ALL FAKE THEREFORE THE ART YOU MAKE IS JUST A FALLACY CUZ UR GAY
>> [_] Anon 2512626 >># >Art that is provocative like Piss Christ, or The Virgin Mary, are provocative for a reason What bother the guy is that only the message is important, not the form. Modern artists forget that the most important thing in art is the form, not the message. Have you seen Le radeau de la Méduse or Porrait d'une négresse? Those works are impresive and shocking. Not like Merda d'artista. The only modern painter I know and that I consider good is Giger. He creates a new genre, his works are impressive and are provocative. It didn't paint with his shit a spot, sold a empty box or piss on a cross.