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[_] I've sen worse, but holy fuck. Anon 3042570 bait? You be the judge. Marked for deletion (old).
>> [_] Anon 3042573 Anyone know a way to embed an mp4/webm video in a flash rather than using that shite codec? Only barely made it under the limit this time.
>> [_] Anon 3042609 Yes, I agree. Posting political videos on /f/ is bait and should be treated as such. Report and ignore.
>> [_] Anon 3042612 Having your citizens being able to shoot your citizens is good for your citizens. This is the logic. Ok. This is a coherent way to frame the debate.
>> [_] Anon 3042613 >inb4 this is anti-gun propaganda by making it look like gun owners are niggers
>> [_] Anon 3042623 tl;dr: other countries are already mature enough to realize guns have no purpose, but america is filled with manchildren who can't sleep without a loaded gun in the drawer of their night stand.
>> [_] Anon 3042624 >># I can't tell what side you favor, but "daddy government shouldn't let people have things that can hurt people" is possibly the dumbest argument espcially since gun homicide is such a tiny percentage of homicides which is a tiny tiny tiny percentage of deaths better to ban prescription drugs, cigaretts, alcohol, cars, and bodies of water
>> [_] Anon 3042627 >># >># >In my ideal world, marksmanship is a hobby no one gets to enjoy unless a judge is hovering over their shoulder to make sure that the shot is being made at a particular distance or in a particular stance. Please also say that games have no purpose so we can get some /v/egans in here. >Also, guaranteed 347089124708932740987140987980981324.2 replies thread. Also, also, I literally never see the argument of psychological profiling when it comes to gun control ever. Seriously. Nor do I ever see it in regards to how we should hire police (hiring someone who's not an actual deranged psychopath who just wants to shoot people). I also enjoy but actually hate how folk see things like this as being a matter of simplicity like it's a question that can be answered with a simple yes or no. I mean, hey, it's why the entire world is using nuclear energy instead of petroleum, right? Right?
>> [_] Anon 3042633 >># >I literally never see the argument of psychological profiling when it comes to gun control ever. That was used to institute a complete gun ban in new zealand. The sheriff had to confirm that you are medically sound enough to posses a firearm, with a note from a doctor. Of course this led to everyone being denied for some unspecified mental disturbance regardless. It's also harder than you'd think to figure out who's a dangerous lunatic beforehand, especially with the amount of weirdos that exist. I don't think there's a notable gain compared to the cost of doing that.
>> [_] Anon 3042637 >># >It's also harder than you'd think to figure out who's a dangerous lunatic beforehand, especially with the amount of weirdos that exist. That's unfortunately a problem I considered as I was writing that: people who go their entire lives looking like normal folk while being completely defunct under the hood. Maybe medical science needs to advance a bit more before such an implementation can be achieved but regarding the gain, there honestly isn't one. I guess it's just culturally ingrained in me that folk have the right to possess a firearm and I'm just naive enough to constantly forget that while I may not kill someone with it, others would. Which I guess is why I'd want to push for guns "being in the right hands" as opposed to otherwise. But even then, if Humans were the ones doing the evaluations, there'd surely be some biases and then we'd have yet another "discrimination against blacks" problem because that would most certainly be a thing in Texas. So, here I sit, sighing defeatedly at the incompetence of a species which understands not the idea of peace. Dammit.
>> [_] Anon 3042639 >># Addendum: I do think that a world totally devoid of guns would be okay but paradoxically, such a world where everyone agrees to give up their guns for the sake of peace is also a world where it's safe to let people have guns because they understand the stupidity involved in killing eachother. Problems without solutions.
>> [_] Anon 3042640 >># >guns have no purpose how about self defense, you retarded faggot Europeans sure love to act superior to Americans, but this is one regard where they're are completely retarded, and so spoiled from living in a safe little white neighbor that they have no idea what it's like for the rest of us who have to live with niggers and spics
>> [_] Anon 3042642 >># >I do think that a world totally devoid of guns would be okay I disagree. I'd rather not have to worry about a 200 pound gorilla having free reign to fuck weaker people up.
>> [_] Anon 3042643 imo I think having a gun is cool, but it does more bad than good you can't really protect yourself from a gun with a gun
>> [_] Anon 3042644 >># I'm honestly glad there aren't any laws against body armor. That would be complete bullshit. >tfw no rich police-state protester has started handing out bullet-proof vests to people in protest of police shootings. Imagine just how embarrassing it'd be for a cop if they shot someone with the intent to kill and that person survived.
>> [_] Anon 3042645 >># >Imagine just how embarrassing it'd be for a cop if they shot someone with the intent to kill and that person survived. The vast majority of police shootings are good shootings. Soft body armor probably woldn't save you if the cop knew what they were doing. So, it would be embarrassing. and the cop would be dead.
>> [_] Bread 3042646 >># Lift more
>> [_] Anon 3042657 >># Owning a gun only does more bad than good if you don't trust yourself enough to handle it responsibly. Personally, I would rather own firearms and run the risk of getting shot by criminal than not owning firearms and running the risk of getting stabbed by a criminal. It's in my best interest to seek as much representation and power as I can. If I can come to a mutual agreement with my countrymen by which we can all own firearms so we can all be certain that our interests as a state governed people aren't neglected by the state, then I am more than happy to oblige. Mass shootings account for a very very small portion of gun deaths in America. They use these mass shootings to push a gun-control agenda because they know that they cannot disarm the people who are doing the other 99.9% of gun violence whom are criminals. Even if they did disarm these criminals, the violence they commit is not preventable by disarmament. They will go back to using knives, knuckle dusters, explosives, or just smuggle guns from other countries to kill their competition.
>> [_] Anon 3042662 >># In short, this. >># >Europeans sure love to act superior to Americans k lel
>> [_] Anon 3042666 >># Just to play devil's advocate... Why can't you defend yourself with a gun against a gun? If someone is going to preemptively attack you without your knowing, a gun will do a lot less damage than someone with a knife. How is it any different? If you ARE aware of the attacker, then you are at less of a disadvantage than if you both had knives. The skill gap for becoming proficient with a gun is a lot smaller than the skill gap for knife fighters.
>> [_] Anon 3042667 >># Nice trips In Sweden crime is low; especially if you consider all the Muslims we take in. I'd bet the most likely reason for this is it's difficult getting armed. If we're talking fights, rather than crime: I don't worry about getting in a fight and if I ever were, the worst that could happen is I get my face punched in. Why would I need a gun? If people have access to guns, everyone's suddenly armed, increasing the lethality of fights. People don't wear knives in Sweden, if we fight we use our fists. Correct me if I'm wrong but that sounds 'quite' better than getting shot. #triggered
>> [_] Anon 3042669 >># Please ignore my faulty English, headache is killing me.
>> [_] John Moses Browning 3042679 >># It's not about shooting citizen, it's about how gun control leads to gun bans. Do you agree with what Colin Noir said? Yes or no? You can fucking hate guns, but thaaat wasn't the question at all.
>> [_] Anon 3042684 >># >If people have access to guns, everyone's suddenly armed That's not what happens in real life. Not everyone is out to wreck cunts. >increasing the lethality of fights. Also not accurate. >I don't worry about getting in a fight and if I ever were, the worst that could happen is I get my face punched in. that depends on the kind of fight. Getting robbed is not the same as getting into a heated drunk argument and fighting, and an honourable fight among people with a thing to settle is like neither. I know swedes think about these things strangely (because language, probably) but the stats I've seen on this don't line up with what you're saying. Specifically in places where it's made easier to harry handguns. In Nevada, there were debates using "road-rage shootouts" as a point to keep concealed carrying illegal for regular people. Th person who said that apologised a few years later when nothing came of it though.
>> [_] Anon 3042685 >># Wait, there aren't? For some reason I've been living under the assumption that they've always been. Someone probably gave me false information at some point. So this whole gun safety/good guy with a gun debate is a bullshit false dichotomy? Why do we never hear anyone on either side advocating bulletproof vests? And where can I get one? Buying tips?
>> [_] Anon 3042686 >># True enough, but even in the United States fights rarely escalate into murder. Most of our murder (around 60%) is committed by blacks who are only 20% of the population and are concentrated in the south. I wholeheartedly believe that violent crime stems from a cultural (and therefore ethnic) predisposition to criminal behavior. My state of Utah has about the same homicide rate as Sweden though we are ranked one of the most liberal in terms of gun control and have one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the US. As of 2012, there is 1 homocide for every 60,000 people which means there are about 1.6 homocides for every 100,000 people which is lower than Sweden's figure of 2 according to wikipedia. Just some food for thought. Our nation is larger than the whole of Europe and it seems unfair that as Westerners who have been taught the importance of civil liberties and how firearms protect these liberties are slowly being disarmed due to the actions of a few mass shooters. If you've ever been to /pol/ you'll know the the US doesn't have a gun problem, we have a nigger problem in the same way Sweden has a Muslim problem in relation to their high reports of rape.
>> [_] Anon 3042688 a country with unarmed civilians is ultimately a weak nation. The more control the government has over its citizens the less rights they will have. Once the citizens are disarmed the government can do pretty much whatever it wants with its citizens without fear of a revolution. After all with unarmed citizens its not the citizens' country anymore it belongs to their government.
>> [_] Anon 3042691 >># >Why do we never hear anyone on either side advocating bulletproof vests? There was a push for a federal ban on body armor in he US a while back. A lot of pro-gun people came out against that. >And where can I get one? Buying tips? Decide if you want a plate carrier (hard steel armor) or kevlar (soft body armor) and search for online stores selling them. Neither are cheap, but you should be able to find reviews of most brands online. (for the plate carrier, what matters is the plate you put into it) If you want something to wear every day, you might be better off looking at getting a kevlar stab vest.
>> [_] Anon 3042692 >># I live in Mississippi. I can confirm 1-2 black people die in the black part of my town (or ghetto) at least once a month, sometimes more. and its rarely a gun. more likely to be from a knife.
>> [_] Anon 3042693 >># keep voting for the party of militarization who appeases you with a safety blanket :^) "yes, you're safe. you're very safe."
>> [_] Anon 3042709 >># "If we limit gun ownership people won't have guns!" YES THAT'S THE GOD DAMN POINT, FUCKTARD. America is stupid.
>> [_] Anon 3042710 >># Reminder that this guy's whole argument is based on the idea of a "slippery slope," which is, by definition, a logical fallacy.
>> [_] Anon 3042713 >># >"slippery slope," which is, by definition, a logical fallacy. how so? if you're standing on a dry slope when it rains the slope becomes slippery.
>> [_] Anon 3042714 Seriously though, guns shouldn't be banned. If someone is going to break the law, they're going to illegally acquire a gun or any other weapon anyway. Even if guns stopped existing, they'll just hit you with a baseball bat. Or a tree branch. Or any other thing that's lying around. This is all about gaining as much control over other people as possible.
>> [_] Anon 3042715 >># I'm accustomed to wearing a weight vest already, so it doesn't have to be too light, but I would like an everyday vest that's not overly restrictive or obtrusive. Any brands or protective ratings I should know about?
>> [_] Anon 3042720 >># It ceases to be a slippery slope argument when there is historical context of it happening
>> [_] Anon 3042721 The only thing to debate is: "Can I use force to defend myself against an attack?" If you say yes, you can't be for gun control. If you say no, then how can you expect our society to be civilized.
>> [_] Anon 3042722 >># >espcially since gun homicide is such a tiny percentage of homicides It's the weapon of choice 2/3rds of the time, with handguns being used more than any other. https://www.quandl.com/data/FBI/WEAPONS1 1-US-Murders-by-Weapon-Type
>> [_] Anon 3042723 >># >there are no other forms of self defense!!!!! don't be dense
>> [_] Anon 3042726 >># What's the difference if I kill somebody in self defense using a knife or a gun? The victim should be given the advantage over the attacker where possible.
>> [_] Anon 3042727 >># >If you say yes, you can't be for gun control. Gun control doesn't necessarily mean BAN ALL GUNS EVER! You can be pro-gun control while still thinking firearms like shotguns, rifles, hell even handguns are okay.
>> [_] Anon 3042728 >># ar500 is a pretty popular rating. Can't think of any brands off the top of my head. It'd be pretty odd to wear a steel plate everywhere though. >># The point of the video is about whether or not there's an end goal of gun control. He posits that there isn't anything reasonable. >># They're stats for murder.
>> [_] Anon 3042729 >># >BAN ALL GUNS EVER! History says that's what all forms of gun control lead to.
>> [_] Anon 3042732 >># the knife can't misfire, go off accidentally, or hit someone it isn't supposed to
>> [_] Anon 3042733 >># >They're stats for murder. >Homicide >Not murder
>> [_] Anon 3042735 >># not all homicide is murder matey. One's a subset of the other.
>> [_] Anon 3042738 >># And you have to be trolling. please tell me, what do you think a victim can do to defend themselves if their attacker has and knows how to use a firearm? not any of the other anons you'd commented to. i just want to know what you think.
>> [_] Anon 3042741 SHAll
>> [_] Anon 3042742 >># Slow your roll, in the UK, there are laws against body armor. In the US, there are some state laws banning body armor for felons. Not pushing an agenda, but thought I should clarify that regulations and restrictions do exist.
>> [_] Anon 3042744 Putting aside all these dumb arguments about safety or what not. The question I would propose to you all is this. If the majority of a country's citizens want access to guns shouldn't they be allowed them? I mean I think gun rights and regulations should be voted on by the citizens. I don't think the Government should have any say in the matter. The Governments of free countries are supposed to be a tool of the people and if they want to change gun laws they should let the people vote.
>> [_] Anon 3042751 >Scotland outlaws airsoft guns >GOD, WHAT'S AMERICA COMING TO?!
>> [_] Anon 3042753 >># If we ignore the Constitution, and imagine it was never written, gun laws ought to be decided on a state-by-state basis, and not federally.
>> [_] bootymastre 3042765 I say keep the guns, Fuck em
>> [_] Anon 3042767 >># >I don't worry about getting in a fight and if I ever were, the worst that could happen is I get my face punched in. on occasion when a fight is lost you are likely to get curb stomped, often fatal always brutal. I'd just as soon avoid the entire altercation and often the mere presence of a gun deescalates things cuz shit just got serious...
>> [_] Anon 3042772 >># ar500 dot com plates alone run ~100 bux a full loadout vest ~200 ish still legal as of today but they tried once already to make it illegal, get it now while you can
>> [_] Anon 3042773 Everyone will say the US invaded Iraq for false reasons- whether oil, or lobbied by Israel/Saudi Arabia, or just to destabilize an "enemy" region. For whatever reason this has shown that a standing national army will fight against it's nation's actual interests for special interest groups. Patriotism was initially the driving force behind America's military, now it is the payoff from serving. You get free healthcare, training, you can even earn a degree while in the military. You don't even have to be an American citizen to join. Multiple anti-Americans have joined and sabotaged it from within- Bergdahl, Al-Hassan, Manning, etc. Our military is increasingly mirroring Rome's, more a mercenary force than it is people serving their nation. An actual militia is made up of citizens with no profit motive. People who are risking their lives for their beliefs and interests. If we destroy our citizens ability to maintain their freedom then we are no longer a free society, Europe is not a model for freedom. For now they have internal peace, but as their situation worsens both economically and demographically that will change. There may be a time when they wish they had the firearms to throw off their governments.
>> [_] Anon 3042782 >># Haha I remember hearing that prior to gay marriage being legalized. Now I am hearing about transsexuals getting their own bathrooms.
>> [_] Anon 3042793 >># This. Alot of men especially certain "types" of men are very uncivil and ape like and if you lose a fight to them they'll have no problem kicking your head a bunch of times and giving you severe brain damage or breaking an arm badly etc... Fights unless you live in an area with only civil intelligent people will usually be quite dangerous and life threatening. Also for you Europeans. When a pack of muzzies chases you down to beat your ass to a pulp wouldn't it be nice to have a gun? Nah... just let them cuck you, faggots.
>> [_] Anon 3042802 after the gun ban crime in scotland is at a 40 year low holy shit http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-3019 2406
>> [_] Anon 3042807 >># http://eye.swfchan.com/services/swfh264/
>> [_] Anon 3042808 I'm not an American and I'm very happy about the low amount of guns in Sweden but I don't think USA should ban guns. It's just too late for that, the bed is made and you'll have to sleep in it. Take away guns from people that respect the law now will only give an edge to those that don't.
>> [_] Anon 3042809 >># man, right in the feels. what happened to this world?
>> [_] Anon 3042810 >># Why are you happy? Do you not trust your fellow Swedish people? Do you think they are bad/uncivil people who would murder others or commit robberies? That isn't the view I had of the Swedish people atleast prior to the Muslim tidal wave. I thought Swedes are intelligent and civil men who I would fully trust to own a gun and not misuse it.
>> [_] Anon 3042815 >># >rest of the world is mature enough tee hee >literally being genocided by their own government through forced immigration
>> [_] Anon 3042816 >># >the number of recorded sex crimes has seen a rise of 12% since 2013 >A larger percentage increase was visible in cases of recorded rape - up 24% >Sexual crimes have been on a generally upwards trend since 2008-09 and are now at the highest level since 1971 luls, does anybody actually care about these numbers? more girls are just yelling rape because they now think feminist rape is real rape (and some of those numbers are just being collected better) but decrease in crime at the same time as numbers are collected better? damn that's impressive. good to know that scotland is a nice country
>> [_] Anon 3042818 >># >our women were mating with males before >they are still mating with males now >if we can't get laid its the fault of the new males!!! Yeah... take off the racism glasses and you'll see how dumb you sound burger.
>> [_] Anon 3042820 >># I'm just happy to know that most criminals are armed with a knife instead of with a gun. Any pussy can kill with a gun, it just isn't as likely with a knife.
>> [_] Anon 3042825 >># Most criminals don't actually want to murder though and if you're being attacked by a mob or a small group of criminals having a gun is really a good defense. I still think gun control laws should be decided by the people but anyway you seem like a nice guy, have a good one.
>> [_] Anon 3042827 >># Bend over Swedish boy. I will give you a taste of my weapon.
>> [_] Anon 3042829 >># That's also a thing, accidental murder happens a lot more often with a gun. Same with school shootings and spirit-of-the-moment killings. Police is put more on the edge if they think the criminal they are dealing with is likely to have a gun as well, another reason I'm happy with few guns in Sweden. You have a good evening as well mate, I'm off to bed soon. It's 8 past midnight. >># Yeah, I'm fully aware of the muslim problem. There's not much I can do about it.
>> [_] Anon 3042832 >># >That's also a thing, accidental murder happens a lot more often with a gun. Accidental murder doesn't exist. There are stats suggesting that you're more likely to be injured if someone's threatening you with a knife than a gun though. firearms don't just "go off" even if you're a functional retard.
>> [_] Anon 3042833 >># I wasn't talking about Muslims. I just wanted to sex your blond butt.
>> [_] Anon 3042838 And the award for most retarded anti-gun answer goes to.... >># >Any pussy can kill with a gun, it just isn't as likely with a knife. So, if you have an asshole with a gun breaking into your house, you'd rather stab him than have your own gun and be done with it? That is seriously the most autistic thing i've heard this year anon.
>> [_] Anon 3042839 >># Nah he was saying that the criminal would only have access to a knife. Though honestly I think I would rather have a gun fight then a knife fight. Knife fights are scary as fuck and make physical strength far more important. Some young woman living alone is not gonna be able to fight off a knife guy criminal even if she has a fucking Samurai sword. For her having a gun and being practiced with it would be the only way for equal or superior footing over the criminal.
>> [_] Anon 3042841 >># 1) two people pointing their gun at each other at 5 meter distance in a stressful situation 2) two people pointing a knife at each other at 5 meter distance in a stressful situation I would argue that it is much less likely for an accidental murder to happen in situation 1. >># I see, I'm just tired... Actually I've got a headache Anon, let's do it tomorrow? >># That have nothing to do with anything, don't be so defensive dude. I've said I think you should keep your gun laws. I'd just be happy to know that if someone breaks into my house in Sweden he will most likely not have a gun.
>> [_] Anon 3042844 >># You can't accidentally murder someone. If you're the swede, 90% of this is you not fully understanding english.
>> [_] Anon 3042849 >># I see, so that's what you were getting at. You probably understand what I meant though so there wasn't really a need to mark on words in the first place. But glad you cleared things up.
>> [_] Anon 3042853 >># >You probably understand what I meant though so there wasn't really a need to mark on words in the first place. I can guess what you mean, but even if I guessed right, I still think you're wrong.
>> [_] Anon 3042856 >># Sorry sorry. its late for me too. and i was watching Trump make a mockery of the US again online. >># >># I'm american I took US law in college. Just because. I still don't understand half of the meaning behind most of our laws.
>> [_] Anon 3042857 >># please, just take 5 secs to type into google "define homicide." actually no heres the definition. "the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder."
>> [_] Anon 3042859 anyone who has access to 3/4 and 1 inch water pipe can make a 12 gauge shotgun. anyone who has access to 5/16 brake line can make a .22 zipgun. only fools think laws will stop a criminal intent on mischief or that you need a machine shop to make a gun.
>> [_] Anon 3042861 >># doesn't he realize that he's fighting an uphill battle right from the get go because he's black?
>> [_] Anon 3042862 >># >># >>#
>> [_] Anon 3042863 colin noir is on the side of right don't care what color he is
>> [_] Anon 3042867 >># Did you get a slightly different result than I did? here's mine: https://my.mixtape.moe/cewkuu.png Murder is pre-meditated homocide.
>> [_] Anon 3042868 >># >much less whoops, that should say "much more" >># yeah i get that since you wrote this before >firearms don't just "go off" even if you're a functional retard. but that's not true. someone pressured so much that his hands are shaking while holding the trigger can very likely shoot someone just by being startled. or by falling over for that matter. hell, ive seen a video of a baby fumbling with someones gun and pulling the trigger, shooting some guy in the side. im off to bed so no more replies from me, apologies for that and don't take offense by any of this please. bottom line from me is that usa cant get rid of guns now, it's too late for that. and besides, it's in the constitution anyway. those things shouldnt be taken lightly
>> [_] Anon 3042872 >># >someone pressured so much that his hands are shaking while holding the trigger can very likely shoot someone just by being startled. Learn how modern firearms work. you'd be amazed.