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[_] zeitgeist isn't a cult Anon 1919263
>> [_] Anon 1919371 I love how everyone hates zeitgeist and your only making it worse

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[_] Anon 1770863
>> [_] Anon 1770874 Which is all in all, a fascinating ideal. However, we still have plenty of jobs that can be done much more effectively by human hands.
>> [_] Anon 1770910 Which is all in all, fucking retarded spam
>> [_] Anon 1770913 Who the hell comes to /f/ to read some economics shit? Why do you keep posting this, OP?
>> [_] Anon 1770921 tl;dr >># This.
>> [_] Anon 1770937 /jp/ master thesis.swf
>> [_] Anon 1771068 TL;DR The bounty produced by mechanisation and economies of scale is being pissed away because richfags gonna rich. Bring on WW3 so we can start building our star trek utopia damnit.
>> [_] Anon 1771086 Yes they are...and they have been for much longer than now. The real thing is people won't let them go. Most of the economy has been resigned to moral-building KP duty, because even utterly meaningless jobs provide order for the nobility and a sense of belonging or value to people who would otherwise be noticed as often as a bush or a telephone pole. The harsh reality is that there are many, many people across the world, and very few of them live beyond an animalistic level.
>> [_] Anon 1771091 what do you mean are jobs obsolete? steven jobs died like last year bro! where were you?????
>> [_] Kageshi 1771107 I only know one jobs thats obsolete, and thats not the one.
>> [_] Anon 1771130 TL:DR

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[_] Anonymous07/01/12(Sun)21:46No.1711004
>> [_] Anonymous07/01/12(Sun)22:52No.1711049 an interesting read
>> [_] Anonymous07/02/12(Mon)00:35No.1711102 We'll live in a fat, lazy Murrikan paradise like in Wall-E

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>> [_] Anon 1617026 wtf I actually just read that entire thing.
>> [_] Anon 1617075 sage, copy pasta your hippie shit on a different board
>> [_] Anon 1617080 durr... technology robs people of their jobs! Lets tear up the railroad tracks and fucking carry everything! economic ignorance, economic ignorance everywhere!
>> [_] Anon 1617081 loop thet said
>> [_] Anon 1617084 >implying we live post-scarcity
>> [_] Anon 1617094 they sure are, that's why I can't find one :(
>> [_] Anon 1617095 but down the blunt, get off your lazy hippy ass and get a fucking job
>> [_] Anon 1617098 I am in fundamental disagreement. The reason corporations were formed wasn't because the aristocracy wanted to ensure they held control over the resources. It's because mass production and centralized/specialized industry is 1000X more efficient than each man producing his own stuff and trading. It's precisely what allowed for the surplus he's talking about in all the goods we have. And the people who manage those factories are the business class.
>> [_] Anon 1617101 I am in fundamental agreement that unemployment is not necessarily a bad thing, and that we need to learn how to organize a society such that unemployment doesn't mean lacking the means to live. He's right, the machines and modern technology do result in unemployment, but it ideally shouldn't be an issue because the entire ultimate justification for modernization of technology to produce goods and services is that people can then do less work, or at least concentrate more on what's important to them and less on working for simple sustenance.
>> [_] Anon 1617120 Jobs is not obsolete, he's dead. Hm, am outta here.
>> [_] Anon 1617130 TL;DR
>> [_] Anon 1617131 >># haha :D that's terrible
>> [_] Anon 1617155 Stop fucking posting this garbage.
>> [_] Anon 1617159 >># >>we need to learn how to organize a society such that unemployment doesn't mean lacking the means to live Okay. Go ahead. Figure it out. Get back to us if you ever do.

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[_] [L] Anon 1610221
>> [_] Anon 1610222 what's black and white and hungry? Steve Jobs' cat.
>> [_] Anon 1610232 in b4 communistfag
>> [_] nam sayin' nam sayin' 1610235 if we were all tarzan we could live off bananas and monkey blood flesh and bone instead of money nam sayin'
>> [_] Anon 1610238 "Wouldn't it be nice if a benevolent superman swooped down and saved us from ourselves?" - everyone ever at some point in our lives Face it, every society is run by people, and people want power more than they want a working society
>> [_] Anon 1610314 Did anybody even bother to read this?
>> [_] Anon 1610320 >># why would we
>> [_] Anon 1610366 Ah, yes. Just like they said in the 60's. Oh wait...
>> [_] Anon 1610394 >># We don't read or watch all the zeitgeist/christfag shit. We just comment on it based on the title or first 3 seconds. This is the internet sonny. We don't give a fuck about your philosophy.
>> [_] Anon 1610396 i read this. it sounds a little naive but sort of makes sense. i highly doubt americans could ever pull this off though. everyone is too caught up in the ocean of apps and social events and blah blah blah blah blah. blah blah? blah..
>> [_] Anon 1610400 >># I don't know, do you? I've always wanted a working society more than "power". I don't know what "power" is really. I fully understand what OP is saying. A case in point would be a guide I saved online from someone who was successful at black hat SEO. Besides the highly abstract nature of this persons job, he eventually concluded that he found it was easier to make money through legitimate SEO than black hat. Similarly, things may become so finely tuned that even money itself is just a kink in the machine. It would take a sort of universal enlightenment though. Also, I've found many people need a nervous outlet to put themselves into with jobs and money and degrees and whatnot.
>> [_] Anon 1610401 I read Herbert Marcuse, and this sir, is human faeces, smeared all over your face, you can't help it, you want to taste it, you cum and start farting and everybody gets on the floor and AIIIIIIRRRRRR
>> [_] Anon 1610428 tl;dr: He's bitching about what has been obvious since the industrial revolution. Ohnoes robots are replacing my slow hungry ass. Apparently his solution is to MOVE ALL THE THINGS to the intarwebs. Not sure how that works, but eh. Apparently we can print US stamps from the internet now!

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>> [_] Anon 1570647 I couldn't agree more. In a world of excess we can't seem to managed to be pragmatic enough to be willing to share things that we literally cannot use ourselves save'd, thanks for stuffing some brain into /f/
>> [_] Anon 1570672 THEY TURK ER JERBS!
>> [_] Anon 1570698 Yeah, Good luck getting big corporations on board AKA the government.
>> [_] Anon 1570762 More like JOBsolete am I right fellas?
>> [_] Anon 1570763 I thought this would be about apple.
>> [_] Anon 1570777 I thought this would be about socialist redistribution. Thanks for proving me wrong.
>> [_] Anon 1570779 Sounds like a rant a certain Neo-Luddite acquaintance of mine would prattle on about.