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>> [_] Anon 1907194 This video makes me feel like the guy from this ASP comic. http://joyreactor.com/post/469688 The beach is /f/. The message is this video. I'm the guy.
>> [_] Anon 1907205 nice bullet points
>> [_] Anon 1907211 I almost never actively seek out pornography but that hasn't solved my depression or anxiety one bit
>> [_] Anon 1907213 >watched this before >saved it >considered it >fuck it - fap off every day!
>> [_] Anon 1907259 Fuck me, that was informative... ED / scrounging for new porn (which I TOTALLY FUCKING DO/DID) < having a hard dick for when it matters ... Deleting porn archives now...
>> [_] Anon 1907272 >># >... Deleting porn archives now... That was me like 4 years ago. In a month you'll miss all your favourite videos and go looking for them again.
>> [_] Anon 1907273 >># We'll see.
>> [_] Anon 1907284 This is one of the few Tedx talks I've seen that isn't shit. I do wonder about the credibility of the study though.
>> [_] Anon 1907288 Seems pretty valid, in my case. I'm not sure I'll suddenly be pubis deep in vagina 4-5 months after having stopped looking for porn, but I'll probably be a better, more productive person for having done so.
>> [_] Anon 1907292 Fuck it, I'd better fap like a free man and be myself than be some "active" goof who is guilty for his own sexuality and desires And yes, no scientific proof whatsoever so i'd better not go into another "some form of sexual activity is bad" bullshit
>> [_] Anon 1907294 Are H manga the same? I like them for their stories.
>> [_] Anon 1907297 What's the deal with the girls then? Or with the gay porn? Or with futas/traps? Or what if I usually fap only to my waifu? Seriously this study is just a raw conservative bullshit
>> [_] Anon 1907299 You don't need to cut it all for good, but don't do it daily. I've been having those symptoms since I started living alone, truth hurts man. I'm quitting hardcore porn, hentai is all I need.
>> [_] Anon 1907302 >># Isn't it mostly because you are alone and not because you are fapping daily?
>> [_] Anon 1907305 quitting porn? a life lived in suffering is not worth living.
>> [_] Anon 1907307 I've just finally watched this. Fuck it, seriosly, you could place any nice thing in the place of "porn" that you are having regulary and say "this is an addiction, all of your problems are because of this". Like "movies", "music", "videogames", even things like "sport", "work" or "sex" itself. And when your life is a shithole somebody could easily say "oh, it's all because of the nice things that you are having, stop liking what you like and quit everything that makes your life bearable and suddenly you reach a fucking nirvana". But the point is that you have anxiety and depression because of the things that cause it, not because of things that you do to deal with it. And this shit sounds like a religious rhetoric to me.
>> [_] Anon 1907308 Thanks, OP. That was certainly interesting. I tend not to agree with it since even the new "control group" is been tainted. It's like questioning smokers, who've been smoking for 10 years. They're going to have more cancer than all-life non-smokers and they're going to blame everything on their addiction.
>> [_] Anon 1907311 >># as long as you're able to "compartmentalize" your life, you can have any number of fucked up "addictions" and still be a contributing member of society. trust me, i know.
>> [_] Anon 1907312 ah well, gee whiz, you hear that, /f/? ALL our problems are because of porn! i guess we'll just have to get rid of our stashes, huh? boy, oh boy, i can't till my life turns into sunshine, gum drops and candy cane rainbows because i stopped jerking it over the internet!
>> [_] Anon 1907315 Why everything that could be named an "addiction" is suddenly so negative? For example, I surelly love sleeping a lot, but it doesn't mean that every my problem is because of too much sleeping and "sleeping addiction" and if i quit sleeping I'd be happy. Of course every problem could be somehow abstractly related to it but seriously it just means nothing. I'd be more happy if I deal with shit that doesn't allow me to sleep as much as I want, than quit sleeping. Masturbation and sex in general are the same.
>> [_] Anon 1907316 It refreshes my chastity belt fetish
>> [_] Charmander 1907335 Stopping right now Thanks Anon, you've saved me.
>> [_] Anon 1907336 >># this
>> [_] Anon 1907339 >># >># You will. I did the same thing after seeing this the first time. It's complete bullshit. Did nothing for me besides enhance my random boners and give me a hair trigger. I edge a lot, so I can actually last longer in bed if I fap to porn frequently. Tried this and ended up humiliating myself with a girl.
>> [_] Anon 1907353 Is that Donald Sutherland in the front row??
>> [_] Anon 1907359 what a bunch of bullshit well it's Tedx so anybody can talk shit and can get away with it.
>> [_] Anon 1907360 >># yeah, like that time cube guy
>> [_] Anon 1907369 As long as you're not fapping daily it's okay.
>> [_] Anon 1907372 stop posting this bullshit
>> [_] Anon 1907380 >>Be thinking about self discipline a lot. >>See this video half a year ago. >>Always wanted a good reason not to fap. >>Stop fapping to prove that I can do it >>Get wet dreams after two months of not fapping. >>Feels good to be free of fapping, man. >>Start watching porn once a week to avoid wet dreams. Original reason for starting in the first place was the same. >>Make watching porn a goddamn event of the week and always seek out the most high-quality classy pornography out there. >>HOLY SHIT THIS IS SOME GOOD STUFF! >>Be back in square minus 9000 -. Fapping more vigorously than ever before. >>FUCK THIS SHIT. Start over. >>Absolute control over own thoughts. >>Start noticing how society is completely obsessed over sex and driven by testosterone. >>My thoughts are more clear than ever and I know better than to fall into the same pit for the third time. Better get used to having wet dreams.
>> [_] Consider this: Anon 1907390 Everytime you orgasm you release dopamine, activating the pleasure center of your brain. It acts as a physiological rewards system for behavior. Nearly everything you do recently up to that point gets flagged as "this is good, do this again." And you want to go cold turkey? When that steady supply of dopamine suddenly dries up and you have no chemical reinforcement for behavior, all that future progress not only goes unrewarded, but you set yourself up for relapse.
>> [_] not that guy 1907391 >># mah nigga also; i saw that
>> [_] Anon 1907431 I have a feeling he cherry picked the positive results from the less satisfactory ones.
>> [_] Anon 1907441 I fail to see how dopamine released by porn differs from any other activity done for enjoyment. What I take away from this isn't so much that porn is bad so much as human society is based on cultivating constructive dopamine addiction.
>> [_] Anon 1907457 Brainwashing is fun!
>> [_] Anon 1907474 >># I'm fapping daily and it's ok.
>> [_] Anon 1907509 >># Yes, if you stop watching porn, then go back to it, it seems less dull. If you swim all the time because you love it and then stop, go back to it 5 years later, it feels a lot more fun then you can remember it being. Stop swimming, its an addiction.
>> [_] Anon 1907511 Fuck this shit, i'd say it's much worse for your mental health to opress your natural desires, especialy sexual libido. It could lead to some serious neurotic shit. The only good thing that could came out of reducing your fap is increasing the pleasure of your orgasms and simply fap/sex when they are less frequent, and making you more aroused in between. But it's like your own subjective choise and there is absolutely no necessity to enforce any order on yourself if you don't like it or if it is uncomfortable to you.

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>> [_] Anon 1793906 Wow. That was really interesting. Looks like I better slow down on the fapping....
>> [_] Anon 1793912 Why? WHY? WHY IS THIS POSTED SO OFTEN!?
>> [_] Anon 1793925 QUITTING!!!!!!!
>> [_] Anon 1793936 neat, although we don't really need a study for this, just go to /d/.
>> [_] Anon 1793940 Sold.
>> [_] Anon 1793947 Yeah, this is great. Don't stop fapping, though, guys. Just stop looking at porn. I've been fapping sans porn for a few days now, and in many ways, it's more satisfying. It used to be that, after fapping to porn, I'd end up staying on the internet, no matter how late it was or what I had to do the next morning, for a couple hours. Without porn, I fap, then either hop out of bed if I have to go do something or roll over and go to sleep if it's bedtime. I love it! Also, my erectile response seems a lot more eager, which is great.
>> [_] Anon 1793950 Thank you.
>> [_] Anon 1793956 Well, shit looks like I'm a porn addict better slow down/stop
>> [_] Anon 1793957 Does this mean that I have to delete all the porn on my computer if so I'll have tons more room on my hard drive.
>> [_] Anon 1793965 >># I just did that and everything is running faster.
>> [_] Anon 1793979 alarmism
>> [_] enig !!/XU8FUhYvg6 1793982 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdXDga8f MUY
>> [_] Anon 1793985 Piss off you weak faggots.
>> [_] Anon 1794000 interesting, can't hurt to try. it really is uncanny how many of the symptoms he mentioned are the same ways i've felt for a few years now. serious lack of motivation, and finding it really hard to be excited by anything.
>> [_] Anon 1794002 I found this easy to fap to.
>> [_] Anon 1794022 Hmm... I may try this. For science.
>> [_] Anon 1794023 nope, don't care still fapping
>> [_] Anon 1794024 >TEDx Oh look it's fucking nothing
>> [_] Anon 1794033 >># It's more than anything you've ever accomplished, faggot. When was your last conference watched by millions?
>> [_] Anon 1794034 >># the same time this faggots was. nobody believes this fag.
>> [_] Anon 1794040 if i dont fap then i get random boners in public
>> [_] Anon 1794042 I believe I will be stronger if I have the will to partake in this experiment. Looks like its soul searching time.
>> [_] Anon 1794043 But if I don't fap I'll be attracted to females and this will end ugly.
>> [_] Anon 1794057 fapping has trained me to last extremely long during sex, and porn has taught me what i like and dont like sexually. Overal fapping to porn has helped not hurt my sex life.
>> [_] Anon 1794060 >># truth
>> [_] Anon 1794062 >># I think this video is more for people who are addicted
>> [_] Anon 1794069 >reddit Oh come on.
>> [_] Anon 1794070 Kinda alarmist, huh? Porn addiction != using porn often
>> [_] Anon 1794075 Well shit, fapped twice today to rule 34, haven't fapped to regular porn in a year, I mostly only fap to clop (ponyporn), I'll browse /b/ and find random things to masturbate to, fap almost every day, fuck I have a problem. I think I'm going to slow down guys...
>> [_] Anon 1794078 >># Just tone it down to once every few days. Moderation is a virtue.
>> [_] Anon 1794079 I only fap to porn when I'm really stressed out and can't fantasize without thinking about whatever's been stressing me out, which is maybe once or twice a week. The rest of the time it's one of three things; ImaginAAAAATION, going to the restroom at work after seeing a hot co-worker doing something hot, or listening to music that reminds me of the times I've had sex
>> [_] Anon 1794090 I agree. Porn helped me too for the same reasons you mentioned. But I've slowly noticed it affect me negatively in some of the manners mentioned in the video as well. The point that the video is trying to make is that in the long run, it's not good and does jack with your functionality.
>> [_] Anon 1794092 >># Crap, was supposed to be replying to >>#.
>> [_] Anon 1794093 Okay, instead of browsing 4chan Imma go play ME3 then. Also, does anyone think having my girlfriend wear a dyed wig once in a while could trick my brain into arousal?
>> [_] Anon 1794102 Wow. Thinking I'm gonna quit.
>> [_] Anon 1794104 I watched this before and honestly the same can be said about being addicted to anything in general. Most addictions will mess you up in some ways.
>> [_] Anon 1794105 Quiting at something are you guys french?

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>> [_] Anon 1789206 jesus fuck no way
>> [_] Anon 1789216 Fuck. Total boner killer.
>> [_] Anon 1789279 oh yeah new fetish found
>> [_] Anon 1789285 fuck...
>> [_] Anon 1789293 I think this just convinced me to stop fapping ... wow
>> [_] Anon 1789323 >># I won't say it's convince me to stop, but it has convince me to slowdown. I don't think I'm suffering from any type of addiction but I probably look too much. I have my own business, pretty gf, and I get on a fairly regular basis . I wish my gf was over more..
>> [_] !!BJiYgff8zf2 1789326 Video games are far more addictive for me than porn.
>> [_] !!BJiYgff8zf2 1789327 Hell, I don't even look at porn most of these days. Most porn models are just too ugly.
>> [_] Anon 1789328 Well... fuck.
>> [_] Anon 1789333 i saw this before, hes right i never stoped cold turkey because its so hard, but i had to go to basic traing for 2 months so fapping was a hell no after a while i got stronger, sharper, i fealt like a complete different person.
>> [_] Anon 1789338 >># Well I dunno if i suffer from any addiction but it cant hurt to stop or even just slowdown a bit. I will probably also slow down with gaming too. Gotta fix things while im still young
>> [_] Anon 1789342 Still going to play vids and watch porn at the expense of my real life. Why fucking bother with real life if it doesn't provide the same reward for much more effort?
>> [_] Anon 1789349 >># Consider this: You can consume a McDouble that costs $1, or you can consume a steak that costs $12. For the sake of argument, let's say they both fill you up equally. By the logic of "why should I do what requires more effort for the same reward", you'd buy McDoubles every day of your life and become a fatass, and never experience something better because you thought "it's not worth the effort", when in reality steak is more satisfying than McDoubles and real sex is more satisfying than porn. Fuck, I think I should quit porn too now. Dammit.
>> [_] Anon 1789354 am i the only one to comment that most people below the age of 20 are A.D.D and almost all people are in someway obsessive about things being done in a certain way just because everyone everywhere either has always done the task that way or is told that is the only way it can be done making the person want to challenge or accept it as truth.
>> [_] Anon 1789355 I'd masturbate with or without porn, so whatever.
>> [_] Anon 1789357 I'm not sure how I feel about this. I watch a lot of porn, that's for sure. The porn I watch has become increasingly extreme, and that's obviously because I've become desensitized to "normal" porn. But I'm not suffering from depression, I don't have ED, and I'm not on a bunch of medication because of internet porn. I probably am addicted to porn, but I don't really see a reason why I shouldn't be. I don't have anything to gain by NOT being addicted. The other example in the video was food addiction, and how it leads to obesity. That's a real, tangible problem caused by addiction, but I don't think there's an equivalent to internet porn addiction.
>> [_] Anon 1789360 >># holy shit man punctuation is important i can't understand what youre trying to say or if youre actually asking a question >># Then this only somewhat applies to you.
>> [_] Anon 1789362 >># Two things: A) People use extreme cases to get their points across, and B) The video would argue that you will eventually get ED (even if you don't have it now), but I'm guessing the real gain from "NOT being addicted" is more time? Even so, the video made a statement of not being able to see the benefits until after the fact, so take that as you will.
>> [_] Anon 1789366 >># Real women become fucking expensive fucking quickly. Enjoy your costly STD's. Relationship? Enjoy getting screwed over 10 years from now. Heres just 1 example: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/r ead/7.391561-Missouri-Man-Pleads-Guilty-T o-Possession-of-Car toon-Child-Porn Remind me why the hell I'm engaged <_<
>> [_] Anon 1789367 What's going on in this thread? I only see a 2 KB flash and a black screen.
>> [_] Anon 1789368 i agree that woman are terrible people but we need them for growth.
>> [_] Anon 1789376 >># If ED was the inevitable outcome of porn addiction, wouldn't ED also be the end your internet porn addiction?
>> [_] Anon 1789377 >># This is a stupid analogy. Sex can enhance a relationship because it provides mutual pleasure, but sexual pleasure and emotional love are still two separate entities. There's no "nutritional value" of sex; your body doesn't really give a shit where you get it from. As long as you're able to distinguish porn from real life and don't let masturbation encroach on your work, relationships and responsibilities, you don't have to worry.
>> [_] Anon 1789386 HEY GUYS THIS GUY CITES ALMOST NOTHING BUT ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE I BELIEVE A LOT OF WHAT HE IS SAYING IS BULLSHIT For me, nothing can replace porn due to the sheer amount of satisfaction that I get out of it. I'm not going to fucking placebo my way into thinking I'm better off without it like other people are doing.
>> [_] ya Anon 1789405 That Deer dick was not needed
>> [_] Anon 1789417 >># We're talking about porn related ED here. Did you watch the video? I, for example can't see myself getting it hard with a real girl and I've felt like this before seeing the video. I also have other symptomps (depression, bad memory & focus) introduced in the video. However, I think it's too good to be true if these are caused by porn. On the other I got nothing to lose and started "nofap" (again) today. What are the odds this video get's posted the same day...
>> [_] Anon 1789422 this is probably one of the most important discussions to happen on 4chan in a long time. I'm glad the OP posted this complete and utter bullshit. First of all, porn is not bad. Porn is good. It prevents rape and PUAs. Second of all, trying to do porn in real life is bad. Third of all, ED is a vascular problem, or a psychological one. Both causes are reversible. Fourth of all, you really only need to masturbate once a day, guys. Come on, we aren't all destined to become mating studs on a jerkoff farm. When you've spurted your load for the day, you're done until tomorrow. Keep yourself to this limitation and you'll be happier.
>> [_] Anon 1789425 >># >We're talking about porn related ED here What's your definition of ED? If you can still get an erection, just not for certain sexual imagery, does that count as ED? The video doesn't clarify, and I don't know what they're exactly trying to say. If you can jerk off to bondage porn, but can't get hard from a naked girl right in front of you, is that ED? If that's the case, who decides what should and shouldn't be giving you erections? I must have had some form of ED since I was 12, since it was about that time that I stopped getting hardons just from seeing women in short skirts and bikinis.
>> [_] Anon 1789426 AHHHHHHH holy shit, ZIMBARDO!?!?!?! Zimbardo is the MOST WELL KNOWN BULLSHIT ARTIST IN PSYCHOLOGY, anyone who cites him is IMMEDIATELY fraudulent until STRONGLY proven otherwise and I'm not hearing it. Fuck this video
>> [_] Anon 1789427 >># >Fourth of all, you really only need to masturbate once a day, guys. Come on, we aren't all destined to become mating studs on a jerkoff farm. When you've spurted your load for the day, you're done until tomorrow. Keep yourself to this limitation and you'll be happier. You just said porn isn't a problem. If that's true why should you impose limitations? Why resist the urge to ejaculate and deny myself the pleasure if it's harmless?
>> [_] Anon 1789428 Long live /yt/
>> [_] Anon 1789429 >># porn isn't a problem, but jerking off more than twice or three times a day will lead to physiologic burnout. It's difficult to quantify how much porn is "safe" but it's easy to quantify ejaculations and the toll they take. The claim is the damage from porn comes from simply watching it (clicks) to cause dopamine surges. But as others in this thread have astutely pointed out, there are all kinds of dopamine stimulating addictive processes people have, of which porn is just one kind. Addiction is unhealthy but not all addiction leads to ED. Beating your meat again and again will literally destroy the vasculature over time. It's similar to how chronic deep venous thrombosis causes vascular insufficiency over time. Look it up.
>> [_] Anon 1789439 >2012 >not being a celibate The monks were right. Enjoy your ED, faggots.
>> [_] Anon 1789441 So the more you do something, the more you want it But the more you do that thing, the less pleasurable it becomes....... Okay then/ :l
>> [_] Anon 1789450 >># desensitization bro great talk
>> [_] Anon 1789455 >># yes, there is even an economic term for that called Diminishing Returns.
>> [_] Anon 1789458 >># This is fairly valid. People always solemnly shake their heads and get teary eyed and think of the all american life, but its actually very mundane and complacent existence. Holding a 40 hour a week job, having a wife and kid, a car, watching NFL on the weekend, etc. couldn't possibly be more depressing to me. Those people are cattle. I'm submerged in a sea of information that would take 100 lifetimes to achieve for someone in the ancient world. The norm doesn't exist, and those who value it only are seeking validation for their lifestyle. Do your own thing. Life can be amazingly beautiful and amazingly horrible, many times for the exact same reasons. In the face of that we should all do our own thing.
>> [_] Anon 1789466 I see truth in this, im SO picky with females now, and the ones that i am 'meh' about but still try to have a one nighter with it doesnt happen, my penis wont pop. so i could see it being true. also if i dont get off after awhile i just get bored, and that is fucked up when a girl is still ready. So yes i think slowing down is good, me and close friends have talked about "WTF is wrong with me". im sure we have all had those. cool post op

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>> [_] Anon 1767303 lol
>> [_] Anon 1767305 I'm going to try it. I'm going to miss the hell out of some booty. FUCK MAN. But combining this video with the motivational video got me inspired to do another challenge for myself. It's going to be hella hard because i love browsing the chans
>> [_] Anon 1767311 This, it all makes sense now, I'm a great looking guy, could never understand why girls would leave shortly after meeting me, always told me I was hot as hell, yet being addicted to porn is that secret that has been keeping me from meeting any new girls or even causing me depression.... Holy shit, i want to quit right now, I am tired of living in this hell.
>> [_] Anon 1767313 And this explains why Its been taking me longer and longer to keep a consistent erection during sex. Well, what better motivation to quit porn than to have actual sex? >You think you're better than me? How dare you!? I'm the master god dammit!
>> [_] Mr. Kidnapper 1767327 Ok I lol'd. Good work anon.
>> [_] Anon 1767329 Quitting today.
>> [_] Anon 1767333 Ok I quit. Now.
>> [_] Anon 1767336 > lisp and awful complexion I bet this guy gets laid every day...by his boyfriend. (video was tl;dw, tuned out and closed after he started talking about fucking sheep)
>> [_] Anon 1767380 Yeah fuck that. I'm quitting. Since I had NOTHING to do yesterday I spent my entire day fapping like crazy. I think I was up at 13 or 15.
>> [_] Anon 1767393 Youtube=/=flash
>> [_] Anon 1767403 >stop reading hentai doujins lol, no
>> [_] Anon 1767407 >pissed at myself for being dumb when I used to be smart >tired of my shitty memory >watch this well, fuck.
>> [_] Anon 1767409 fuck, but i love watching pron!
>> [_] Anon 1767413 I'll not believe this until I try.
>> [_] Gandalf !WZRD.JhIYg 1767414 Yep. That's it. I quit. Time to join Reddit.
>> [_] Anon 1767415 See what he doesn't say out rightly is that not only is porn addiction cause to most of those symptoms (minus the ED) but so is internet addiction. So to see the FULL results you'd have to limit both porn and internet usage. But of course he wouldn't be as successful if he went outright and said so, instead of hinting upon.
>> [_] Anon 1767418 this is bullshit, im 30, been fapping to internet pron for about 12 years and i can still get it up and fuck my girlfriend for hours
>> [_] Anon 1767435 I see. I should quit internet porn because some limp-dicked casuals stopped and fell better about themselves. Yeah, no. >># This.
>> [_] Anon 1767436 This isn't for people who fap once every day or so. This is for people who used to, and still do fap 2-4 days per day, and have gotten to the point where they watched fucked up shit to get off.
>> [_] Anon 1767438 >># Subjective. You are saying that the person who first got off on guro and scat can't enjoy normal porn anymore. The only "problem(?)" here is excessive masturbation. Person's sexual preference has little to do with it.
>> [_] Anon 1767461 Is the experiment to show that people click it just because it includes porn although the file is only 2 KB? I should mute my sound now when clicking it.
>> [_] Anon 1767488 Alright, so I'm not depressed. I just watch porn?
>> [_] Anon 1767505 He's a living skeleton with a too tight skin cover dragged over him.
>> [_] Anon 1767515 >># I feel you bro
>> [_] Anon 1767532 >># double feel, all the way
>> [_] Anon 1767548 well, time to stop fapping

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>> [_] Anon 1738905 Thanks for embedding a fucking youtube video, asshole.
>> [_] Anon 1738918 Ha. Jokes on you. I couldn't get it up before porn but now I get it up all the time.
>> [_] Anon 1738924 Hmm, I figured this was my problem. Glad someone posted this. The problem didn't start instantly. You guys should at least be aware of this in case it starts to happen to you.
>> [_] Anon 1738926 this post needs more porn.
>> [_] Anon 1738939 i been fapping left handed since i could fap....
>> [_] Anon 1738940 >># This. Cutting it out my life, starting with my massive porn stash. Rather improve my getting laid to fapping ratio than keep something that's just gonna keep improving anyway. I can look at all the new shit in my lonely middle-to-late ages.
>> [_] Anon 1738943 Eh, convinced me to try. I wonder if I actually will get stuff done if I cut cold turkey. Of course, I'm afraid of mood swings similiar to that of a smoker on patches. Any advice?
>> [_] Anon 1738948 Shit. I bet if I quit porn it'd help me.
>> [_] Anon 1738949 >># Don't have to quit fapping, just quit porn. I used to fap using my imagination all the time... then I found porn. You'll probably naturally fap less anyway, and instead seek out pussy (or ass... or cock... depending on your preference).
>> [_] Anon 1738957 >># ...Really? 'Cause it seemed like the whole thing, especially the whole "Fapstronauts" part, was about not masturbating at all.
>> [_] Anon 1738961 Watching the whole thing, this seems like a thing to try. Pr0n deletion protocols engaged!
>> [_] Anon 1738968 Well fuck. Maybe this explains my constant gloominess.
>> [_] Anon 1738977 But quitting porn is hard.
>> [_] Anon 1738983 Next week I'm going on vacation: no Internet. I'll prob fap once a day at night if I'm not too tired. It's a start but I can't spend so much fucking time on the web when I come back - That's the problem.
>> [_] Anon 1738986 just cause i have 300 gigs of porn and spend atleast 4 hours a day looking at porn doesn't mean im addicted ;_;
>> [_] Anon 1738988 And to think I came here looking for porn.
>> [_] Anon 1738991 Kudo's OP Now i know why t the no fap XXX threads comes up. Gonna go into porn exile for 2 months.
>> [_] Anon 1738992 >># I see no reason to quit that cold turkey either, that seems just as sad as having an addiction to begin with
>> [_] Anon 1738997 How do I know if I'm even addicted? I jack off to fetish crap, but have no trouble getting a stiffy without it, and if anything it's made it easier at times, and I do it without porn just as often as I do it with. If anything, the testimonies sound like they're from manvirgins and douchebags who blame nudie pictures on the fact that they can't get any.
>> [_] Vetor !!fOm9SCO1TbI 1738999 You know, there are other really thought provoking embedded YouTube videos posted here too. I mean, this is the only one about sex, but that doesn't mean the others aren't worth watching.
>> [_] Anon 1739004 utter bullshit also embedded, op you're a true faggot
>> [_] Anon 1739006 Ty OP ignore trolls.
>> [_] Anon 1739007 This makes so much sense. I really need to quit.
>> [_] Anon 1739008 Pseudoscience, pseudoscience everywhere. And yet I am now going to stop porn until I have a steady influx of pussy profit anyway. Damn that man's sexy reassuring voice
>> [_] Anon 1739032 >># It's not about not fapping, if you're paying any kind of attention. It's about not fapping to porn. Cause it overstimulates the brain into thinking you've hit the "evolutionary jackpot." Like you've got girls (or guys) everywhere. Fapping less doesn't hurt, though, and I used to only fap when I started popping random boners or got a wet dream or some shit... before I started on internet porn. It's not wrong to fap, man has been doing it since they discovered their dicks. >># Quitting porn cold turkey is sad? I guess thousands of years of no porn before the internet existed is pretty fucking horrible then.
>> [_] Anon 1739036 >># It wasn't really pseudoscience. It was a variety of psychology and neurology. It also reminded me I really need to start doing some independent research on those two subjects.
>> [_] Anon 1739038 I jack off like 30 times a day normal women don't even excite me in any way no matter what anymore sounds legit but i aint ever gonna quit.
>> [_] !!qdvBtKFtNy6 1739043 This doesn't explain why some people are obsessed with one waifu rather than having an ever-growing harem of new porn stars.
>> [_] Anon 1739046 >># autism
>> [_] !!qdvBtKFtNy6 1739048 >># >You know, there are other really thought provoking embedded YouTube videos posted here too. No there aren't. This one is pseudoscientific shit. If I want scientific research I'd go on scifinder. I don't go on motherfucking 4chan for scientific research.
>> [_] Anon 1739054 >># In denial
>> [_] Anon 1739057 >># i don't think you're using pseudoscience correctly. pseudoscience is specious claims without any sort of actual peer-reviewed evidence justifying it - homeopathy, "toxins", chiropractic care. this dude has charts, papers, and abstracts from established studies justifying his claim. ted talks are pop sci, not pseudoscience. try to use the correct insult
>> [_] Anon 1739061 fuck dis 3dpd shit i just wanna jerk off and kill myself.
>> [_] Anon 1739082 That guys skin is literally melting off his face. Holy shit. Zombies want us to stop watching porn.
>> [_] Vetor !!fOm9SCO1TbI 1739085 >># For your own good.
>> [_] Anon 1739087 Bookmarked. Maybe this will stop people on /fit/ asking DURHURF IS FAPPING BAD
>> [_] Anon 1739090 Fap difficulty 6/10
>> [_] !!qdvBtKFtNy6 1739091 >># >charts, papers, and abstracts from established studies Lol'd 5/10
>> [_] Anon 1739098 DENIAL. DENIAL EVERYWHERE.
>> [_] Anon 1739102 jesus i'm fucked
>> [_] Anon 1739119 >># You're not fucked. You wouldn't b e addicted to porn if you were
>> [_] Anon 1739143 >YEAH THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT BECAUSE I COULDN'T LISTEN TO THE GUY AND DIDN'T WATCH PAST 2 MINUTES
>> [_] sage 1739144 Mfw i just jerked off then watched this
>> [_] Anon 1739161 ive been fapping at least once a day for 4 years. help me.
>> [_] Anon 1739167 >># >># It's pseudoscience, not because it's psych and neuro, but because it revolves around an overly reductionist model and he didn't use any population statistics. He makes pretty bold claims, and supports them with a couple anecdotes. People crave sex like they crave food. Then, people tend to crave porn like they crave McDonald's. Most people can lead healthy lives with moderate use of porn and/or McDonald's. Abstaining from porn, or McDonald's, really only has much of a benefit to those that are addicted to it. From the way this guy is talking, you'd think every American male over the age of 12 has a porn addiction, which is kind of stupid. Yes, even though he had charts.
>> [_] Anon 1739175 Well I fap up to 5 times a day, usually 2 or 3 average, I definitely have a problem.
>> [_] Anon 1739187 well then, i'm going to only open loop flashes for music and whatnot... and games. no more porn or fapping for me. also: BUMP because people here and on 4chan in general need to see this.
>> [_] Anon 1739188 >># I work in a reproduction biology lab and it's always impossible to get any sort of population statistics regarding sex (masturbation included) because everyone always lies. People sign up for studies because of the monetary incentive, then lie on the questionnaires due to being ashamed, as well as a fear that *something that they do so regularly is unhealthy or causing harm*.
>> [_] Anon 1739197 >># re-read my post. Didn't mean to imply that sex/masturbation is bad for you. People are just fearful of possibly finding out that it might be.
>> [_] Anon 1739215 So, all I took away from this is that internet porn is bad. Not masturbating itself - a lot of people seem to be making that inference here. I have known for some time what he mentioned about the pleasure center of the brain used as a rewards mechanism. Essentially, what is happening, is that by fapping to internet porn, you are programming yourself to fap to internet porn. Alternatively, if you fap after something constructive, like reading, writing, or exercising, you are rewarding that behavior, motivating you to do it again. Just as it can be a bane, it can be a blessing. It's a double-edged sword. People who are quitting cold turkey are making a stupid mistake. What do you think happens when you stop a constant flow of rewarding dopamine? All that abstinant behavior after that is given a low priority. You are just setting yourself up for relapse.
>> [_] Anon 1739219 >># Not the guy you were talking with, but I think the main point is that anything in excess is bad for you, and porn just happens to hit a lot of the right triggers in our brains. It's certainly a little wishy-washy, but it's not entirely incorrect.
>> [_] Anon 1739222 I think a lot of people are missing the point. The parallel he made between obese people and porn addicts is about the best one you can make, because in both cases, you are satisfying the search for two of the primary goals of life: food and reproduction. Now that we, as a society, have nearly infinite food and orgasms, our animal hindbrains are freaking out and going, "holy shit! I should get all of this before it disappears!" Wanting food and sex *a lot* are traits that have been evolutionarily selected for, and now that we're in a position where we have an unlimited supply of either without having to actually do anything, we're frying our brains. We're becoming numb to it. Our animal hindbrains are going, "why bother trying to reproduce when I could get the satisfaction of fucking on the internet?"
>> [_] Anon 1739223 Well what about watching porn but not fapping. Shouldn't that in theory make you more sexually aroused, because you'll become frustrated with not being able to please yourself and would have to go find someone else to do it. I.E. increasing your horniness and wanting to enjoy the feeling more.
>> [_] Anon 1739224 >># No, then you'll probably just end up staring at the person because you've wired yourself to abstain from sexual activity whenever you're aroused.
>> [_] Anon 1739225 >># Same guy here. Try it. Watch something that will get you wanting to nut but don't even touch yourself. It should make you frustrated and make you want to find something to get that relief.
>> [_] Anon 1739226 I came 4 times to this video
>> [_] Anon 1739228 >># 7 Billion people, and this is a problem ..why? We've not only overshot the threshold for survivability as a species, we have reached a point where science can do this for us. Better, faster, stronger. I think the real issue here is relationships.
>> [_] Anon 1739230 >># I don't believe so. Just because you abstain from something doesn't mean you'll no longer be able to do it. Honestly, I think it's the opposite. The more you do something on a constant basis the less satisfying it becomes. However, I am going based off myself and I have issues with losing interest in things quickly. Only reason I can look at porn so much is that I only focus on one if my fetishes at a time so I never wear out. I have applied this to other things in my life. If I only had one fetish I would've given up porn a long time ago.